what are barack obama's flaws?

I understand the gag factor in seeing an embrace of someone with detestable views, but being able to work with someone is not the same as taking BFF photobooth I ENDORSE YR VIEWS BROSEF pics with them.

he shouts out coburn waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much IMHO. so unnecessary

FWIW i do more work to help get obama elected than anyone else on this board

So that thing McCain mentioned during the debate about Obama requesting $932 million in pork is more or less accurate, right? Admittedly it's not something I care about that much compared to the bigger issues, but it would count as a flaw, and as far as I can determine it seems to be true.

my guess (i have not researched the details re: obama) is that a fair amount of what GOP usually term "pork" would be funding for projects in the state/district that would benefit the public

that is part of his job imho. i got plenty of things to criticize about obama but this is not one that troubles me unless there is some real cronyism stuff in there.

Yeah I wish he would actually defend some of the earmarks instead of saying that the system is "broken" since it's kind of giving the point to McCain, and not requesting any earmarks for the next year isn't going to do great things for Illinois. If he was just like, "hey here's all the useful stuff I did with my earmark money, I was working for my constituents, fuk u John" that'd be cool.

FWIW i do more work to help get obama elected than anyone else on this board

― regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:00 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

A remarkable assumption.

FWIW I don't think anyone on this thread was attacking your motivations for criticism (nb: on this thread, other bs attacks on your motivations notwithstanding). Your point is well taken.

lol daria do u have a dick if so plz tell us how much bigger it is than the dicks of everyone else on this board

he shouts out coburn waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much IMHO. so unnecessary

FWIW i do more work to help get obama elected than anyone else on this board

― regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1. isnt he alwsy 'shouting out' to coburn in response to bullshit 'ties' to an asshole like ayers?

2. orly

i got it guys i think daria is actually joe biden

I took that to mean D. is working at an office or in some other GOTV capacity (much like Ethan).

or is sara palin

i assumed campaign work, but then i thought maybe she just knows more people who are "uncomfortable with" Obama than the rest of us

i might do Camp Obama, but I'm probably a little too Federal court for door-to-door; should do voter protection if I'm able to

Obama's biggest flaw is that he doesn't have a tic which would make him suitable for a really good "SNL" evisceration.

well, it does. there are things that are true and things that are false, at the end of the day.

ha

jeez i haven't even remembered to keep up with rolling ringtone maybe i should see you all over there on a different subject

I think I remember hearing Obama use the word "cockamamie" at least once. Which is just, I mean, come on... it's just a foolish word.
That said, my Grandma occasionally employed the phrase "Holy Jupiter!" with notable success, so I could be wrong here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krisken/2862353537/

Now would you prefer that or the Public Enemy logo on there?

his support for ethanol?

serious question

YESSSSSS

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-lucky-we-are.html

if you hate jim lehrer, you hate america

true

MCCAIN: (whispering) I'm taking you out, gook boy.

OBAMA: (whispering) Step up, cracka.

This is making me nostalgic for high school satire columns.

what's wrong with cockamamie?

Dennis Perrin's just crying out for a hug isn't he?

you actually read it?

Good lord no.

oh dear.
jim lehrer did a pretty good job imho. he forgot to ask them a stupid question about professional sports though

xp: he won't let the close-minded hug him.

Lehrer neeeds to be put down in the barn.

classy^^^

Behind the barn, please. Or we'll never get the stains out.

xp: he won't let the close-minded hug him.

Lehrer neeeds to be put down in the barn.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, September 29, 2008 1:22 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are you 15??

not nearly no matter where you put the tape measure

move thread to I Love TMI plz

jesus christ

btw Que, Lehrer's brand of mewling "classy" PBS journalism is what makes him a waste of space.

Dr. Morbius i don't ever watch CNN or Fox or any of that shit, because I try not to get too much of my news from the TV. Nor do I have cable. That said, Jim Lehrer and PBS are really not that bad--they go pretty in depth on lots of topics, and they seem fair to both sides. i read papers and blogs and stuff, too so PBS is more supplementary. he runs a good debate. if you really think he needs to be shot like a horse, i don't think there is anything I or anyone else can say to change your mind.

i'm not sure what mewling classy journalism means to you but like i said, TV's a horrible way to get your news, so Lehrer and co suprise me.

surprise me--

you on the other hand never surprise me.

he's no Dennis Perrin that's for sure

A thought that haunts him, I'm sure.

seriously--i stopped reading after the "Jim Lehrer wants to put a Tek-9 in his mouth" gag. i guess i should read that bullshit instead of watching PBS from time to time, right Morbs?

it means he has a mild disposition and eschews the scatology morbs so prizes

he's also a Marine, so good luck w/ that KO, morbs

not saying it's an illegitimate argument to call him insufficiently hardnosed - in what capacity? he's mostly a newsreader and dialoguer - but we can do without another geraldo'reilly afaic

i'm saying for TV, he's pretty good. that's all i'm saying

Cockburn in last week's Nation:

Unusually early, the real election day this year fell on October 4, the day the House of Representatives finally approved the bailout bill already passed by the Senate two days earlier....

The election of Jimmy Carter in 1976 was ...a season of hope that a new era was dawning, particularly in the arena of foreign policy and the cold war. "If, after the inauguration," Carter's campaign manager, Hamilton Jordan, told the press, "you find Cy Vance as secretary of state and Zbigniew Brzezinski as head of national security, then I would say we failed. And I'd quit." Carter wanted George Ball as secretary of state, but in the backstage maneuverings of the real election the Israel lobby vetoed Ball. Carter was forced to pick Vance as secretary of state and the cold war fanatic Brzezinski as national security adviser. Jordan did not quit.

The real election in Bill Clinton's case took place after his election, when he swiftly indicated surrender by making Goldman Sachs's Robert Rubin his treasury secretary. By May 1993 he had signaled his total submission to the Wall Street banks and the end of any pretense--thin from the get-go--of economic change or social reform.

This year the economic crisis demanded an early real election, designed to fend off the admittedly very remote possibility--Rubin is Barack Obama's close economic adviser--that Obama, victorious in the November 4 election, might claim a reformer's mandate and seek to prize loose the stranglehold of Wall Street financiers on the economy.

On September 23 Obama stated on NBC that the crisis and the prospect of a huge bailout required bipartisan action and meant he likely would have to delay expansive spending programs outlined during his campaign for the White House. Thus did he surrender power even before he gained it. Simultaneously, McCain, endorsing the bailout, destroyed a golden opportunity to revive his candidacy by placing himself at the head of the Republican revolt and seizing the popular mood, which was and remains one of vitriolic fury at Wall Street and the bailout.

Dissent dwindled rapidly in the press as the Accredited Commentariat, from George Will on the right to Paul Krugman in the center, declared the bailout odious but necessary....

As the economic crisis continued unabated, people said this showed that the bailout bill had been useless. Not true at all. Its paramount importance was as a show of force, as dramatic as nineteenth-century cavalry cutting down demonstrators at Peterloo. As an instigator of beneficial change, the Clinton administration was over six months after election day 1992. Assuming he wins, Obama has beaten the speed of Bill Clinton's 1993 collapse by almost seven months.

But hold! you cry. Obama may enter office with a secret plan. Even FDR campaigned in 1932 for a balanced budget. And anyway, Obama and Biden will save us from Sarah Palin, Alaska's answer to Eva Perón! My friends, the ebullient Palin, a provincial right-wing populist in the Poujade tradition, is a distraction from the uncomfortable truth. After the October coup, and Obama's meek surrender, the November ballot is merely a coda.

thanks.

in the backstage maneuverings of the real election the Israel lobby vetoed Ball

this guy

to Paul Krugman in the center

this guy sounds european :D