Repeal the Second Amendment

this is exactly the wrong approach: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gun-control-movement-retreats-to-revitalize-itself/2015/10/27/cabf918c-7ce4-11e5-afce-2afd1d3eb896_story.html

feel like our nascent lobbying group needs to give these guys a talking-to

has it been repealed yet

shakey, have you actually done anything besides starting this thread to move forward your goal of repealing the amendment?

lmao

I'm working on it

need some deep pocketed donors to get our lobbying operation off the ground, does anyone have a few million lying around

have you considered wearing a sandwich-board sign on a busy street corner?

or protesting gun shops w/ placards showing bullet-ridden dead bodies? it seems pretty clear to me that activist opposition to the second amendment doesn't come anywhere near the passion of activist opposition to abortion.

there are no gun shops in my city to protest against, unfortunately

but our lobbying group endorses this tactic

no gun ranges you can protest? i'm skeptical.

there are no gun ranges either, altho I think there must be some in the south and east bay...

There is a shooting range in South San Francisco, I believe.

yeah it's right off the freeway

yes, several. Also the big gun show they do at the cow palace several times a year.

yeah I've been to that one

Oddly a bunch of archery ranges. I'm less concerned about them though.

kinda don't think "activist opposition to abortion" is much of a model btw since most of that seems to consist of (a) blatant intimidation, harassment, and various forms of assault, (b) cynical application of misinformation, especially when seen in illustrated sandwich boards, and/or (c) getting the people on your side really riled up and pumped about the Enemy, rather than actually winning anybody over who doesn't agree with you.

kinda don't imagine you'll get a really great conversation going at the gun range but who knows. i'm kinda most interested in the idea of passing federal legislation requiring all gun owners to register with a set of newly reorganized and exceedingly well-organized state militias held to extremely brutal federal guidelines. gotta honor that second amendment! oh yeah and no assault or automatic weapons are required by militias so those have to be traded in. and all the ammo needs to be kept stored at the armory, since it's only going to be used in the event of ground invasion by the british.

Advocate for repeal, accept militia-based regulation as compromise

Is there actually a plan to do anything beyond advocating for gun control on ILX?

I plan to visit my in-laws next week but I don't think that's what you mean

Is there actually a plan to do anything beyond advocating for gun control on ILX?

well I already have a dayjob and 2 small children, so the degree to which I have time and money to commit to a massive national political lobbying operation is a little limited, but I'm open to suggestions

I mean I've signed up for newsletters and donated money to various people but I assume that's not what Mordy's talking about

run for office or stfu shakes

not sure my repeal the 2nd amendment platform would guarantee me a win for local elected office, p common position around here

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Protest at Walmart

I don't even know where the nearest Walmart is

is there one in Emeryville?

shakes have you considered taking some hostages

Shakey and his buddy behind Target:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_845ywsAF1Oc/R14KltELALI/AAAAAAAAAF0/hG8T6VV0uy4/s320/jonah_goldberg_in_car.jpg

c'mon I would never wear cargo shorts + sweatshirt combo

Enact every measure conservatives and pro-gun people have proposed to reduce gun violence, with the caveat that if there is no reduction in it in 7 years the 2nd A will be repealed.

Caveat: sell no guns to disheveled men in cargo shorts.

is there one in Emeryville?

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no

Repeal the 2nd amendment everybody!

repeal everybody!

there's still time to repeal the 2nd Amendment, let's do this

got anything actionable yet?

still looking for initial funding for my repeal effort

have you tried gofundme?

https://twitter.com/igorvolsky

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/12/02/hours-before-san-bernardino-mass-shooting-doctors-were-on-capitol-hill-petitioning-congress-to-lift-ban-on-gun-violence-research/

Repealing the second amendment still leaves the problem of differing state laws on gun control, which is exactly what we had pre-Heller (2008), as I said upthread. So you still get people buying guns where control is light and bringing them to states where control is heavy.

i hate to be a gross cynic but we have all seen the tremendous impact of scientific research on climate change :/

i hate to be a gross cynic

no you don't

but yeah

i don't relish it! didn't u see my kip science advancements thread? i want to feel good about the future.

If research didn't matter they wouldn't be suppressing it!

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12316059_10208148052442922_4660408513214774226_n.jpg?oh=42190ac107485454ba5524cbd7ba6afb&oe=56E2032A

what's sad is that the number of marks on that scoreboard (~580) only covers 2-3 weeks of murders using guns (over 30 a day) if you count suicides/accidents (around 80 per day) the scoreboard only covers about a week.