OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

remember devendra banhart?

xpost, yeah, i mean the piece is basically just pwning music writers, which I'm always 100% in favor of

― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:21 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you'd prefer "music journalists"?

srsly barf a million times @ endless thinkpieces parsing the critical reaction to album x

someone needs a nap

xpost, yeah, i mean the piece is basically just pwning music writers, which I'm always 100% in favor of

i mean i am too but this one uses really shitty reasoning to get there

I mean, also, it's hilarious that she's like going in on Taylor Swift and Beyonce being the only model for feminist musician that male writers get behind when A) Just 10 years ago, you would have been more likely to see critical acclaim for Joanna Newsom than Ciara and B) There was like 9 bazillion Carrie Brownstein interviews posted this week

lol at anybody who reads past this:

The mainstream press has remained leery of the multitalented harpist Joanna Newsom since her much-touted 2004 debut, despite consistent favorable reviews.

in what outlet are these reviews printed? in the...press, you say? I see, I see

lol

The mainstream press has remained leery of the multitalented harpist Joanna Newsom in the many gushing reviews of literally everything she has released

in outlets are they touted?

Mainstream Press is a great hip-hop group from Oakland, though.

Entire pieces have been written about the voices of Bob Dylan and Tom Waits, so American and vital and wise in their manly scratchiness, like unshaved bristle and whiskey and dirt. Man voice make music good.

i agree with her that sexism is a factor in the way music is reviewed.

but that seems sorta self evident and presenting it here as if it were a revelation is a tetch self serving in preservation of newsom as the greatest voice of her generation, why because i like her

yeah this sucked as an experience of reading prose and is tendentious and bad as a description of newsom's appeal but . . . .

it's on point that many male journalists infantilize and condescend to women in pop/rock who are scarily talented

(see the critical history of kate bush, bjork for starters there)

I'm guessing this probably doesn't happen to, say, martha argerich or someone on that level

pretty much all music "opinion" writing these days is presenting totally obvious, self-evident things as "revelations" because social justice

and that is bad and awful

the only way to enact real change is to eat up real estate with constant, condescending, redundant explanations of things that everyone already knows

like how many articles can I read and share on social media in one day that reinforce the worldview of my peers and i

I wouldn't want the outcome to be "if you don't love newsom as much as I do, then you're a sexist piece of shit"

but you're saying maybe that is the arm-twisting politics-as-ethics logic here?

that's a bummer, if it's true

I haven't read the piece and only skim-read the conversation here but I already feel better about having been on-record as someone more than willing to make fun of both Bob Dylan and Joanna Newsom

Man voice make ILM good.

blown display name opp

Man troll gas beany jim-jam

this is one of my favorite voices ever. starts at 3:22 right after the witch is hanged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDxMnjRZT7M

where are you, Trella Hart! i could listen to that song all day long.

blaaack lucky hammerhead...

Mark Of The Witch written by two women, fyi...

"now i wonder...if anybody'd miss me if i died..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqq8vMt2I9E

not the same as her mark of the witch jam, but pretty cool and depressing.

this song is amazing though. luckily a family member posted it along with family photos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6q1w0RPhBU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rENJbKqS9ns

Here is PAMS' Swiszle package, Series 32 for WKLO. Trella Hart is the captivating lady with the amazing voice singing lead on many of the cuts. Trella's voice had a fascinating, (even sexy) "smokey" sort of quality. She was paired on many cuts with PAMS's answer to the Four Freshmen, here called the Good Timers.

you've sold me scott

this is her only spotify track and i diggit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg6cpbzJez4

pretty much all music "opinion" writing these days is presenting totally obvious, self-evident things as "revelations" because social justice

yeah the number of "if you don't like this / do like this, your politics are wrong" articles is really depressing but since the default mode of writing about music is now "this is how I felt as I listened," it's natural that this is what we'd get

it's definitely what you get when blogging = journalism.

or "journalism".

i don't really know what you call the awl. awl-ful!

webblogzine or whatever.

what i found more striking was that i think i've read five profiles of newsom from this album cycle, all of them by men, and all of them identical (1. something about unicorns 2. her songs are complicated 3. she was in inherent vice)

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I spent €8 on Uncut to read a dreadful feature that went on about the 'constellation of birthmarks' (read: freckles) on her face, and hit all these other marks mentioned above.

Apologies if an ILMer wrote this but shit like this make me pray for asteroids

http://thequietus.com/articles/19113-carly-rae-jepsen-emotion-best-record-2015-olafur-eliasson-drake

i don't really know what you call the awl. awl-ful!

webblogzine or whatever.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 02:28 (2 days ago) Permalink

For a while it seemed like they were trying to distinguish themselves as sort of "above the fray", not too clickbaity, perhaps a little more literate than most sites, but not with articles like that.

all you really need to know right here about that carly ray review:

"As with the briefcase in Tarantino’s Pulp Fiction..."

If an ILMer wrote that you should be even less apologetic

Heh, probably.

The Quietus are usually pretty good generally though which is why it's always a bit odd when they drop the ball so heavily

New winner.

http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/10-of-the-best-debut-albums-of-2015

painful stuff.
makes the bojack horseman takeover issue look like a masterclass in subtlety.

It didn't have "sponsored post" on it at first. It had a byline. Of a writer who took to Twitter to angrily deny he had anything to do with it.

Viet Cong is not a noise band

Clearly that's the issue here.

tbh i'd rather have my advertorial hilariously clunky like that than anything more insidious (or worse journalists repping brands in non-advertorial copy)

found out about the late of the pier frontman's record from this. the system works! listening to it now, though - perhaps it doesn't