Dylan's Christian period

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ha yeah, it's not a dylan album i actually want to listen to.
but yeah aside from a few one offs, it seems like he just picks a setlist for a tour and sticks to it these days. which actually is fine (if less fun for internet trainspotters like you & me) -- the recent shows i've heard have been really solid and together, probably because the band knows those songs cold.

tylerw, Friday, 23 October 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

this is his current set, which is impressively non-greatest hits for the most part.

1. Things Have Changed
2. She Belongs To Me
3. Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
4. What'll I Do
5. Duquesne Whistle
6. Melancholy Mood
7. Pay In Blood
8. I'm A Fool To Want You
9. Tangled Up In Blue
(intermission)
10. High Water (For Charley Patton)
11. Why Try To Change Me Now
12. Early Roman Kings
13. The Night We Called It A Day
14. Spirit On The Water
15. Scarlet Town
16. All Or Nothing At All
17. Long And Wasted Years
18. Autumn Leaves

(encore)
19. Blowin' In The Wind
20. Love Sick

tylerw, Friday, 23 October 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link

good to seem some stadows material in there

j., Friday, 23 October 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

Xxp MY GOD THEY KILLED HIM

JoeStork, Friday, 23 October 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

good to seem some stadows material in there
yeah and a couple from Stadows In The Night II: Still Stadowy

tylerw, Friday, 23 October 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

JEFFERSON TURNIN OVER IN HIS GRAVE

j., Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just put on side 2 of Saved and maybe it's just the holidays but sounds pretty good to me! remembered this as a total dud...

niels, Friday, 25 December 2015 09:37 (eight years ago) link

I love how "In the Garden" is as much about Dylan as Jesus

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 25 December 2015 11:52 (eight years ago) link

it's certainly not abt Mel Gibson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCRFeRyfJW8

niels, Friday, 25 December 2015 13:31 (eight years ago) link

anyone know who's drumming?

niels, Friday, 25 December 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

It's not Stan Lynch?

Die Angst des Elfmans beim Torschluss (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 December 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

I guess it must be - was that an entire tour with Petty & Heartbreakers backing Dylan?

niels, Friday, 25 December 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Not 100% sure, but obviously from that video you can see Petty and some other Heartbreakers, and I just glanced at Behind The Shades and some other books and it seems to be the case. And Stan didn't leave the band until much later.

Die Angst des Elfmans beim Torschluss (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 December 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

SO much oPRESSion
can't keep TRACK OF IT NO MORE

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 26 February 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

how many 60s dinosaurs went into the 80s as cleareyed as "well i dunno which is worse / doin your own thing or just being cool"

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 26 February 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

SO much oPRESSion
can't keep TRACK OF IT NO MORE

― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, February 26, 2016 4:37 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this makes me of think of dylan keeping a spreadsheet of forms of oppression and needing to hire interns to update it

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 26 February 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

for one of his list songs

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 26 February 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

Doctor, can you hear me? I need some MEDICAID!!!
I seen the kingdoms of the WORLD and it’s makin’ me feel afraid!!!

tylerw, Friday, 26 February 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0J3Y5s_kfo

Just stumbled over this reappearance of the Toronto 1980 show. Much improved quality!

Also, thanks to all in this thread who convinced me to revisit this so-wrongly-dismissed era.

doug watson, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link

the sermon around the hour twenty mark and the blistering song afterwards...I just love seeing him so unjaded

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

yeah, such an intense performance overall.
was just revisiting this early take of "caribbean wind" which isn't quite there, but is nice nonetheless
https://vimeo.com/66756497

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/no-man-righteous-dylan-and-pseudoconservatism/

j., Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

time is forever just running out … The apocalypticism of the paranoid style runs dangerously near to hopeless pessimism, but usually stops short of it

...

a fear of the end-times quickly becomes indistinguishable from a yearning for them

...

the various songs yield an exhaustive, Whitmanesque catalog of villains

but enough about 60s dylan

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

ew rob horning

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

YA HEAR THAT, ROB HORNING??!?

j., Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:31 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Has anyone here been discussing THE BOOTLEG SERIES VOLUME 13: TROUBLE NO MORE?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link

yep quite a bit in the Dylan bootleg series thread

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

everyone loves it and is baptised in the blood of the lamb

Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

im going to see the "trouble no more" film tonight!

marcos, Friday, 9 March 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link

jealous!
i love the lord & these live albums

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 March 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link

jesus christ & bobby dylan are my reconciliation

marcos, Friday, 9 March 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link

I DON'T CARE ABOUT ECONOMY

I DON'T CARE ABOUT ASTRONOMY

tylerw, Friday, 9 March 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

"Ain't No Man Righteous" is such a jam.

o. nate, Saturday, 10 March 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link

aw man the "slow train coming" in this is MEAN

marcos, Saturday, 10 March 2018 05:48 (six years ago) link

that and "what can I do for you" were the highlights

marcos, Saturday, 10 March 2018 05:50 (six years ago) link

there really should be a Mavis thread, but anyway:

First, they couldn't settle on who has to sing the line "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse." "He said, 'You're going to sing it this time. I did it for you last time,' " Staples recalls. "I said, 'You didn't do it for me. It's your song!' " And with the song's seven verses, Staples, 78, had trouble getting the lyrics straight. "I asked him, 'Do you have a teleprompter?' He says" – she drops her voice to Dylan's guttural rasp – " 'I'm too cheap to buy a prompter, Mavis.' I told him, 'You can buy one for me, Bobby!' "

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/mavis-staples-second-act-bob-dylan-jeff-tweedy-w517080

niels, Sunday, 11 March 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

He and Staples had a fling in the Sixties, with Staples famously rejecting his marriage proposal.

If this information is “famous,” I never heard it before!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link

was dylan sober from drugs and alcohol during the christian period?

marcos, Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link

maybe for a minute, but i think he got back into it pretty quick.
was just listening to the 1981 live performances on Trouble No More — really wild vocals from Dylan, like an attempt to create a whole new style for himself.

tylerw, Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:23 (six years ago) link

I’ve been sleeping on this bootleg series set, but will prob’ly have to get it.... I love “Saved” and some of the other stuff from this period.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link

Discussed this a bit on the Bootleg Series thread. I listened to almost nothing else for a month or two.

the pinefox, Monday, 12 March 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

I DON'T CARE ABOUT ECONOMY

I DON'T CARE ABOUT ASTRONOMY

― tylerw, Friday, March 9, 2018 5:44 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

marcos, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

grain-elevators-are-burstin'

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

love the Trouble No More set so much.

It's innaresting how angry and uninviting Dylan's version of xtianity is. Like, very little of it is uplifting or rapturous or thankful, a lot of it focuses on the harsh, judgmental end of things, not really the kind of angle that wins a lot of converts.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

i always crack up during precious angel, which seems kinda like a tender love song until: "Can they imagine the darkness that will fall from on high /
When men will beg God to kill them and they won't be able to die."

tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link

haha yeah that's a prime example

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link

there's still humor poking through, and occasional moments of tenderness and then hey don't forget FIRE AND BRIMSTONE

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link

it's esp jarring because so much 70's pop-Christianity was inclusive and liberal e.g. Godspell, the Good News Bible, the communal "Jesus movement" etc., this is the v much the Reagan-era advent of evangelism as conservatism

but fuck yeah this set kicks so much ass

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

yeah it does coincide w Reaganism but my memories of the 80s evangelism revival doesn't really fit Dylan either - those guys were transparent hucksters in the faith healer tradition, constantly bursting into tears and dancing and reveling in opulence and the GLORY and btw send money

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link

Bakker, Swaggart, Falwell, Robertson - Dylan bears at best a passing resemblance to those clowns. To a man they projected an avuncular happiness (and venality) that Dylan doesn't go anywhere near.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link


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