thanks!
the symphony thing was a cool one-off although really Kendrick and his band nail the material so well that the whole tour is gonna be fire.
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/the-sound-and-the-fury-of-kendrick-lamar-at-the-kennedy-center/2015/10/21/c4497e56-77f0-11e5-a958-d889faf561dc_story.html?wprss=rss_story-style-lateststories&tid=sm_tw_st
Chris Richards review of NSO gig in Washington Post offers praise, and then nitpicks a bit
But just as the march of time has made “To Pimp A Butterfly” feel more consequential, the album’s flaws continue to chafe in equal measure. Lamar obviously shouldn’t be punished for his ambition, but his music often feels like it’s doing everything in its power to impress you with its technicality, its thoughtfulness and its deep-deep depth. It can sound like music that’s trying to be important instead of just being.
Is that a Kendrick problem or a virtuoso problem? Virtuosity gives an artist great power over the listener, but it also leaves him exposed. Tremendous skill can extinguish the ambiguity in music, making everything visible — and everything visible can be scrutinized.
And while Lamar does plenty of self-scrutinizing in his lyrics, he often comes across as an artist weighed down by the burden of his own greatness. Or maybe he’s just shouldering the impossible expectations of those who see him as rap’s lone savior, fighting the good fight that Drake, Kanye West and other celebrity-minded rap stars appear unfit for.
...“Loving you is complicated,” he knowingly declares into the mirror on “u,” a song he performed on Tuesday with an almost frantic intensity. “I place blame on you still, place shame on you still,” Lamar rapped. “Feel like you ain’t s---, feel like you don’t feel.”
This was a powerful moment, but a difficult one to actually hear. More often than not throughout the performance, the music swelled into a vague, high-decibel fog, with the symphony — conducted by Steven Reineke — forfeiting its nuance to Lamar’s way-too-loud backing quartet and a series of pre-recorded supporting tracks that should have been left at home
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
i went to this as well (like 2 hours before the show i checked the kennedy center box office online & a few available tickets popped up. still expensive.. worth it)thought it was amazing. the lyrics are so dense and went by so fast live it was hard to make out everything, sure, but i didn't really think the music was too loud. seemed like a lot of the crowd literally knew all of them word for word (though not so much in the most expensive seats front and center). he did change out some of the curse words some of the time (iirc said something else instead of "bitch" in 'king kunta') crowd was really into it & show went by way too fast. would definitely go to the next one at lincoln theatre if i can get a ticket for that
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link
e’s just shouldering the impossible expectations of those who see him as rap’s lone savior, fighting the good fight that Drake, Kanye West and other celebrity-minded rap stars appear unfit
some classic projecting by the writer. Why would Richards care about those people who think Kendrick is "fighting the good fight" against celebrity-minded rap stars?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link
I do think there's an interesting schism btwn Kendrick's breezier (but still technically dazzling) guest verses and his albums, but Richards' ideas on Kendrick there don't feel complete
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link
he did change out some of the curse words some of the time (iirc said something else instead of "bitch" in 'king kunta')
yeah there was a little of that (also dropped a lot of n-words out of "Alright") but it seemed more like ad libbing that censorship considering what words he DID let fly throughout the night.
― some dude, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link
And while Lamar does plenty of self-scrutinizing in his lyrics, he often comes across as an artist weighed down by the burden of his own greatness.
I think maybe if this dude goes back and reads through some of Kendrick's lyric sheets, he might get a clue as to what burdens are in play here.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 22 October 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link
Sure, but there's still a certain messiah complex at play w kendrick that sets his burden apart from other rappers'.
― longneck, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link
without stanning, it's hard not to include Kendrick among the most creative, intelligent and successful musicians of the past decade; imo his awareness of his level of achievement doesn't seem any more burdensome than, say, peyton manning's or steven tyler's.
though i'm sure (i hope?) it's unintentional, there's the ghost of "uppity" haunting any sort of examination of kendrick's loving himself. given the man's artistic focus, i daresay that's worth going out of your way to avoid.
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
Uppity's not an option. His art is uptight though. It's what he does.
― longneck, Thursday, 22 October 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link
feels like ppl are looking for something wrong with it. its not supposed to be all things to all people
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 22 October 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link
http://www.ticketmaster.com/tde-presents-1st-annual-kuntas-groove-new-york-new-york-11-02-2015/event/00004F5EBAB1454C?artistid=1480454&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=3&tm_link=artist_msg-0_00004F5EBAB1454Ctix disappeared instantly unsurprisingly
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 October 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
unless you want to do the 350 a pop meet and greet package, what a world what a world
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 October 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
Not to mention the venue "upgrade" from Webster to Terminal 5
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Saturday, 31 October 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link
damn the new song he did on fallon tonight was absurd
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 January 2016 05:44 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZJXvjeWlVA&feature=youtu.be
― some dude, Friday, 8 January 2016 05:46 (eight years ago) link
no one is on his level, fuck
― ecclesiastes nutz (m bison), Friday, 8 January 2016 05:51 (eight years ago) link
http://acltv.com/2015/09/28/new-tapings-kendrick-lamar-and-dangelo-and-the-vanguard/^d flaked (NO!) but Kendrick didn't and this is airing this Saturday. Set your DVRs
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2016 06:25 (eight years ago) link
oh man I hope they give Kendrick the whole hour on ACL
― alpine static, Friday, 8 January 2016 09:39 (eight years ago) link
i from ACL: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-kendrick-lamars-empowering-i-performance-at-acl-20160107
― alpine static, Friday, 8 January 2016 09:52 (eight years ago) link
i read and thought about this album more than i listened to it last year.
― StillAdvance, Friday, 8 January 2016 10:47 (eight years ago) link
i love that new song. who is in his band? they sound ridiculously good.
― StillAdvance, Friday, 8 January 2016 11:09 (eight years ago) link
Dion "Dzyne" Friley - music director, playbackTony "Chicago" Russell - bass, keybassRobert "Rob G" Gueringer - guitarJohn Whitt, Jr. - keyboardsTony "Rico" Nichols - drums
― some dude, Friday, 8 January 2016 12:04 (eight years ago) link
that is really hot
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 8 January 2016 12:29 (eight years ago) link
oh my god that Fallon performance
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link
holy fucking shit
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link
is it me or is he kinda just doing like, slam poetry (not a criticism) now w a really badass band?
― How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link
bc it's lyrically so dense and hard to unpack on first listen
"slam" was my first though too
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link
*thought
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:47 (eight years ago) link
he's done stuff that has been more jammy before. his lyrics are def pretty dense on first listen but this song is pretty musical.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 January 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link
his grammy campaign strut has been fun to watch
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link
yeah when he stretches out into those legato phrases he really points out how it's not just words over music imo - I don't think he's doing slam poetry over a band, I think he's the lead player in the band and his instrument is his voice
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link
rousing applause for that rhythm section, plz
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link
that's the opposite of a jam, it's a structured, tight as fuck prog-hop exocet. amazing
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Friday, 8 January 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
breh
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 January 2016 15:21 (eight years ago) link
british people gettin' excited, deal
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Friday, 8 January 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link
the way he builds up steam to that final section is breathtaking
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 January 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link
super-saiyan is a fair (and oft-youtube commented) assessment
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
i keep watching the king kunta video, it's hypnotic. the camera moves and the dancing, all of it. there's this part from abt 2:08 to 2:27 where kendrick and everyone else starts dancing to their left then they move back right and the camera shifts with them and idk if it was thoroughly choreographed but it's amazing.
― nomar, Friday, 8 January 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link
as far as the TPAB era videos go
Kunta > i > Alright > For Free? > u/For Sale? > These Walls
"Never Catch Me" would be right up there
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 8 January 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link
"never catch me" is #1 in that list for me because i cant watch it without sobbing
― ecclesiastes nutz (m bison), Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link
definitely think kendrick is some new & incomprehensible source of power, where are things like this even coming from. so cool to get to watch somebody going clear in front of your eyes
― bloat laureate (schlump), Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:22 (eight years ago) link
what a weird song to throw the old "slam poetry" accusation at, it's just a rap song w/o 16 bar verse and chorus structure.
― some dude, Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:32 (eight years ago) link
par for the course imo, nobody thinks about what something might be doing musically now, they just look for "what's the nearest association I can make w/this." this is a consequence of the speed of social media imo and isn't really a knock on anybody personally tbh, it's just how it is now - ppl reflect for about 60 seconds, and as soon as they have a near referent, that's their opinion
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:36 (eight years ago) link
^^^^
Probably my favorite music video this decade.
― gaz "puffy" coombes (The Reverend), Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:36 (eight years ago) link
the fact that he hasn't released a studio version of the Colbert song 13 months later gives me dim hope but i'll really be bummed if the Tonight Show song never gets released, i really think it might be one of my favorite things he's ever done.
― some dude, Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:45 (eight years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, January 8, 2016 7:32 PM (19 minutes ago)
eh it was a first impression, based mostly on delivery. Shit's tight.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:53 (eight years ago) link
he seems to have a lot of worthy stuff just lying around, i.e. the track that showed up in that Beats by Dre commercial a couple years back
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:54 (eight years ago) link
wow that was intense
― k3vin k., Saturday, 9 January 2016 02:09 (eight years ago) link