"Escape From New York" - stupid film, but.... Classic or Dud?

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I remember being incredulous about Prince of Darkness until it got to the scene where Alice Cooper kills the nerd guy from Riptide with half a bicycle, then I realized it could do anything it wanted. it's like the pacing of the fight scene in They Live applied to an entire movie.

Milton Parker, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:40 (two years ago) Permalink

Prince of Darkness isn't peak material but it's still v good and pretty batshit imo

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 October 2015 21:17 (two years ago) Permalink

zzzzzz

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2015 21:29 (two years ago) Permalink

man between this thread title and the aliens one

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 19 October 2015 21:30 (two years ago) Permalink

i wish i could conjure back up the particular way i was annoyed and bored by prince of darkness, cause i'm remembering these bits and pieces that were good. it just felt like this ridiculously large cast all pacing around independently of each other. like we're still meeting new people an hour into the movie, and nobody seems really aware of anything else that's going on. there's this sense of non-urgency or disconnectedness, people having weird my-dinner-with-andre conversations about the anti-god equation off in a separate movie from the people trying to escape the green slime. it would feel dreamlike if it felt like it was on purpose, i guess.

and then there's like a twenty-four hour montage, sun setting, sun rising, as dennis dun (IIRC) slowly tries to break through a wall with a chair or a spoon or something, and in the last ten minutes he tries to get the people on the other side to actually help? the creepy computer was cool i guess.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Monday, 19 October 2015 22:59 (two years ago) Permalink

vampires is the carp nadir afaic. james woods is one of those guys who is exceptional in the right role and this wasn't one of them.

what I most remember abt that movie oddly is that is was one of gregory sierra's last screen roles before his apparent retirement. I love when old school dudes show up, but this was no 'deep cover' kinda role for him.

nomar, Monday, 19 October 2015 23:03 (two years ago) Permalink

I saw that in the theater and man so baaaaaad. apart from the guy who gets sliced in half. that was funny.

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 October 2015 23:04 (two years ago) Permalink

According to the original book's author John Steakley, the film contained much of his dialogue and none of his plot.

nomar, Monday, 19 October 2015 23:09 (two years ago) Permalink

thing I remember about Vampires was just lots of misogyny, like every other vampire was a woman who was being tortured or burst into flames

also sealed my lifelong distaste for James Woods

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2015 23:50 (two years ago) Permalink

I actually called Carpenter on that at the press junket (way back when), and iirc his and everyone's defense was they're not women, they're vampires! I guess he had a point, but still ... not biting.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 00:47 (two years ago) Permalink

"not biting"

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 01:17 (two years ago) Permalink

baloney

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 05:04 (two years ago) Permalink

why dress them in gendered clothing if their gender is irrelevant, why not make them more animalistic etc etc

it was a choice & a bad one, and that's a cowardly answer "but but theyre just vampires"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 05:07 (two years ago) Permalink

As a kid I was a bit obsessed with Frank Doubleday as Romero, he stole every scene. it took me years to find out his actual name and the name of the character, he's also the guy that shoots the kid in Assault On Precinct 13

http://i61.tinypic.com/15s7tia.png

MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Holy shit. I'd never made that connection before! I can't stand that scene though, even though it's what sets everything in motion.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:40 (two years ago) Permalink

don't order the vanilla, kid!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:06 (two years ago) Permalink

This is my favorite carpenter OST right now. So krautfully delightful.

I liked but was vexed by PoD when I watched it w couple of years ago. I wanna see it again. I like jarringly quiescent genre stories. I'm a huge fan of In The Mouth Of Madness (not that it's quiescent but it's late carpenter that no one mentioned)

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:07 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, much prefer In The Mouth of Madness to boring old Prince of Darkness (tho POD has a mildly interesting commentary track where Carpenter sometimes seems quite irritated by his co-commentator Peter Jason).

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:20 (two years ago) Permalink

PoD is frustrating, so many of the main roles are taken by bland, soapy actors which is a real shame as it has a couple of genuinely great bits, the 'this is not a dream' transmission sequences, the guy with the wobbly voice who says 'pray for death' then his head falls off cause he's made of bugs , the old homeless lady licking the Priest's hands.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:36 (two years ago) Permalink

But PoD does look really great in HD and the soundtrack is just a really menacing, slow building bassline with some ornamentation.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:41 (two years ago) Permalink

PoD definitely foreshadows the later truly incompetent films

nevertheless it is transmitting from the year one... nine... nine... nine

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:21 (two years ago) Permalink

flipped through Ghosts of Mars last night on youtube due to this thread. had never dared before. it is pretty bad.

>also when the one alien ghost is screaming on the hill like BAAGAAWUGGALAAAAAA, that was great

^^

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:26 (two years ago) Permalink


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