CocoRosie member goes to "Kill Whitey" Ironic dance parties and gets called out by brainwashed.com as racist

seriously why is Cherokee the default tribe that white people claim is in their blood

I blame Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRP8e47x55o

i blame don fardon. or paul revere & the raiders.

i'm trying to think of the worst-case scenario with these guys. maybe starring in a netflix mini-series about the antebellum south that is directed by miranda july. that oughta do it.

i only read about them here though. who is their audience in 2015? french people?

Was at a gig over the weekend - one of the acts was 'rejected and unheard of in his home country (UK) but had gained popularity in France'

this monstrous red flag did not dissuade me from hearing his set, which was some self-indulgent misogynist loathsome ageing-singer-songwriter flathat-wearing bullshit of the most irksome order

I liked their first record, or maybe it was the second one. It had some charm. but they personally sound like loathsome narcissistic art school people with little to no actual experience with actual human beings.

of COURSE she is Cherokee

every southern white person claims cherokee ancestry, it's a thing (science proves most of 'em wrong btw)

Most of what I've read from them in interviews seems so problematic and "provocative" in all the wrong ways that I remained surprised that I *do* really like about 4-5 songs on each album they release.

I like DJP's explanation, but not as much as I like Rock the Night.

My sister-in-law apparently did some kinda of ancestry.com family tree that supposedly uncovered native-american ancestry. NOT Cherokee; a lesser-known group of people who would have been more appropriate for the area. But I don't know how much stock to place in that website, ya know? My dad was a super-genealogist. Spent his weekends at the National Archives and perusing Mormon microfilm collections. I really hope that in his retirement he'll offer to do some work on my wife's side of the family, so that my kids don't run around spouting any awkward fairy tales about their heritage.

actually every southern person full stop; whites and blacks.

my paternal grandmother sent me a birthday card this year, and the first line of it was "i don't know if you know this, but my great-grandma was part cherokee indian." the message didn't even reference the fact that it was my birthday, actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEZPs06Sgw

http://www.nerve.com/life/why-do-so-many-people-claim-they-have-cherokee-in-their-blood

apparently even most actual cherokees don't have a lot of genetic markers common to native americans. make of that what you will.

meanwhile

“JEREMY PARKER is an actor, comedian, musician, and writer.

Under the monikers Jamstation, Next Nikki, Durty Nanas and Tha Pumpsta, he’s released five albums, and he’s worked with both well-known and underground personalities, including opening for legendary entertainer Slick Rick.”

Uffie was a Nazi!

All that she wants
Is another baby
And to heil Hitler

loooooool

back in 2019 thanks to Chance the rapper

Yeah that's why I bumped this; I was going to give Chance a chance and then I saw CocoRosie listed among the guest artists and was like ☮️

lol, give Chance a peace

ahahahahahahahahaha

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFD9juCW4AAWBxC?format=jpg

This seems like a bad idea

Not in a country where this kind of thing happens:

https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2019/10/04/au-college-de-france-francois-xavier-fauvelle-brise-les-cliches-sur-l-afrique_6014181_3212.html

Maybe they should invite Cocorosie to the Collège de France

i never understood this band

xp your point is that fauvelle is white ?

thought it was :

Un professeur dans une université américaine s’étonne de constater cette majorité de « mâles blancs et âgés », inconcevable dans le milieu universitaire anglo-saxon, où enseignent certains des plus grands intellectuels du continent.

Yep.

ah okay. will actually read article next time

"i never understood this band"

their first album has always been pretty good. I've not actually paid attention to anything since.

Is it...possible that CocoRosie are unaware of the racial connotations of the term "shine"?

New album, new song/video.

https://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2019/10/Cocorosie-Put-The-Shine-On-1572439333-640x640.jpg

hasta la vista, rosie

lol phil

They apparently have a new album and this is part of the press guff:

"(They) have released seven albums....each one inspiring controversy and debate in equal amounts to praise; such is their fearlessness and willingness to take risks with their art. This strong creative vision runs through every aspect of their work - from videos to live performances utilizing theatrical costumes and make-up - which they create alongside each new body of songs."

Amanda Palmer goes into the Jeff Goldblum fly machine with Grimes and hits the "divide by two" button.

https://www.hollandfestival.nl/en/interview-with-bianca-casady-from-cocorosie

‘As stated in the first tenet of Future Feminism; ‘The subjugation of women and the earth is one and the same.' In general, our feminism is strongly earth-centered with an unceasing reverence for nature. We see the body as sacred. We are currently interested in a vision of re-wilding as a broader concept both for the planet and for female beings. We were raised with a particular moral compass regarding cosmetic surgery and the transfiguration of the natural body which we have carried forward into our adult lives and in turn, our political perspectives. When we see for example how some women believe testosterone will make a women’s body stronger and therefor better, that’s worrying. It also appears to us that many middle class Western families would nowadays prefer to have a diagnosed trans child than simply a ‘dyke’ or a ‘faggot’. We believe that radical self-acceptance is true feminism and that much of the problem which needs to be addressed is society’s rejection and oppression of female bodies.

Regarding our view on surgery, it is not a dogmatic stance that rejects modern innovation, it’s the ethics of how we use these modern innovations and ultimately who is profiting and being harmed by them. Women and girls are being stripped of their wilderness. This view does not make us trans exclusionary radical feminists. This terminology, “TERFS” is being used to silence women who have a dissenting view on current identity politics. The dissenting voice and a kaleidoscope of multifarious perspectives in a healthy, uncensored discourse is in our opinion essential to reaching the most enlightened and humanly compassionate ideas and goals. Silencing, censoring and disenfranchising women with differing points of view is blatant misogyny and we see it as part of the milieu of the modern witch hunt.’

Oh who's surprised? NOT ME.

"not this" would have been a surprise and it sounds like they were born into it too

funny thing is I was onboard with the first paragraph despite the art blurb buzzwordiness of it all until they got to the surgery part and it was like here we go

woof

hard to think of a less kaleidoscopic movement than terfism though

These girls live in France iirc and would not know that most American families who are DoorDashing to keep the electricity on would probably rather have a “faggot” than have to deal with the tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical costs involved in transitioning a trans child

this is nuts, I was just in the process of c&ping those two paragraphs myself. fucking TERFs

Absolute goofery

the statement that TERF is misogynistic is definitely a thought-terminating cliche used amongst the TERF community which just goes to prove that any label with utility that exists for more than 5 minutes will eventually be abused en masse by people who are seeking to shield themselves from valid criticism

aren't they friends with Anohni

oh right, in that linked interview, it's right there

too lazy to read, does it say what Anohni thinks of their terfery

"In general, our feminism is strongly earth-centered with an unceasing reverence for nature. We see the body as sacred. We are currently interested in a vision of re-wilding as a broader concept both for the planet and for female beings."

Always thought there was something vaguely fascist about new age Earth mother people who talk about "the body" a lot.

Is that translated from the French? Something might have been lost or mangled.

It's really hard for some people to not offer their opinions on other people's bodies