Will that guy on Jeopardy ever lose?

of all the comparisons you could make

Stone Cold/Rock lol. One of the greatest "fake" sports rivalries of all time.

My friend was on a J! episode that aired last week, she was super impressed (and a little frustrated) with Matt.

he is something else alright.
he's been putting away games before the first commercial break.
i'm not sure i've seen anybody play with such swagger, dominance and pure black hat aggressive attitude.

he has, as far as i see, two weaknesses: he's counting on controlling the daily doubles and max prizes by rocketing through categories and, thus far, excellent luck so if he ever misses all of the daily doubles, he might be vulnerable
also his pop culture knowledge is weak and there are these strange gaps... the "shirley temple" guess was particularly wtf. but his knowledge on literature, geography and science are whip sharp and he just gets on these runs where he locks down the lead and you barely even notice how he did it.
on one of the close games, where he had a lead / a competitor nearly at half his total / not much time left, i was surprised that he tactically and clearly intentionally slowed down the game by carefully saying the entire category and dollar figure. that's some advanced, patriots-level winning poor gamesmanship

btw if he wins 11 games, he is holding up both hands and sticking out his tongue gene simmons style
god help us if he wins 12 because his cock is coming out for sure

i want our own multiple jeopardy winning Dr. Casino to weigh in here

i really doubt he knows who gene simmons is

he might not! I still think he'll stick his tongue out.

i only won one episode! and, this is the sad thing, i've barely watched the show since. we don't have TV so my watching has always been a bit infrequent but there was a period after the taping where even thinking about it made me kind of anxious! i think it's fading gradually but it's still there, a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g3--WYH8SY

i feel like the window to discuss this closed but Matt Jackson's run was one of the more amazing things I've seen on teevee this year.
Such a great player and so wonkily uncharismatic. I really miss watching him, wish he had been on for months.

i found him wonkily charismatic! the way he'd just talk right-the-fuck over Alex was hilarious and ballsy I thought. and his serial killer grin which I like to think he was fully aware of.

He kind of weirded me out at first but I warmed up to him after the first couple of days when his demeanor became sort of endearing. He was much better than the polo shirt wearing grad student / stand up comedian guy who won a couple of days a few shows after Matt left, I wanted to punch that guy all the time.

i did quiz bowl in high school and i knew the type and did not get along with them.
his level of gamesmanship was SO HIGH; he knew to stall when he was ahead and rush answers when he was looking for the daily doubles so that he could maintain a pace that felt a little too rushed but clearly fell in his comfort zone.
he got visibly shook if anyone was within 50% of his total and wasn't able to relax to pokerface unless he had the game completely won.
but my god, he was just so dependable on such a wide variety of topics. His literature, geography and science knowledge was pretty flawless.

xp there.
though i didn't like the polo shirt guy either.

jackson was fascinating but he's a total weirdo. i'd say he needs to get laid but i think that would raise some serious consent issues

I suspect that my husband had developed a crush on Matt Jackson during his Jeopardy run, which says what about me idk.

i found jackson v creepy for some reason, not fault of his own i am sure, but for him to lose and be replaced by that gurning dickhead was p horrifying

i had a mancrush on him for sure but i felt like he was negging me

not trying to pick a fight but i would like to gently suggest that referring to a twenty-something mixed-race guy with some clear on-the-spectrum social behavior who is now undeniably among the top five all-time jeopardy champions as a "creepy" "weirdo" who "needs to get laid" runs the risk of sounding offensive

i am pleased that he stopped with the hands thing after he hit ten; the grin was ultimately trademark schtick

ftr my (probably offensive) "consent" crack referred to his lack of capacity to consent, wasn't calling him a rapist. but yeah

forks taking the easy moral high ground diagnosing a guy he saw on jeopardy with "clear on-the-spectrum social behavior"

and why "twenty-something mixed-race guy"? what is the relevance. what a bizarre post.

he made a lot of $ but 'undeniably top 5'? prob not

1) - a layman could tell you that his behavior was odd in comparison to past and present players; my gf works daily with autistic kids and adults and suggested most of his actions were keyed in on the spectrum
2) - on the internet, Ken Jennings and Julia Collins are considered brilliant, quirky and engaging; Arthur Chu and Matt Jackson are nerdy and weird. there are very few POC multiday winners on Jeopardy; the show's core fanbase is older and conservative, hence laffs for this nonsense:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/10/27/watch-jeopardy-contestants-response-goes-viral-for-comparing-liberals-to-pansies/
Matt discussed his multi-racial background in the q+a portion. if you don't think color matters, gtfo.
3) - In the modern era, Matt is #5 in most games won in a row at thirteen, #4 in most money won at 411k. What metric would you like to go by?

I'm also almost certain that among players with a six or more game win streak that he's #1 in average winnings per game at $31,662.

well u said all-time not modern era tbf

i honestly have no idea about pre-trebek winners; in any case, "modern era" covers over 30 years.

i guess you could argue that Matt hasn't proved anything at tournament of champions yet. i am REALLY looking forward to seeing those games.

yea I mean I don't really care, extreme top of my head hes not above brad rader or Jennings or prob Julia Collins or that lumberjack looking dude w the mustache? prob are a handful more. maybe say he's in the top dozen or something

"if you don't think color matters, gtfo." strong play dude

no idea why you think i'm picking a fight with you about a conversation topic that feels utterly self evident and couldn't have been less aggressively phrased but if it makes you happy

jc: what's your standard for placement there if not average per game, number of games won and total cash winnings? Dude had about the highest margin of victory I've ever seen. Are you going by likeability or something?

Jackson, Chu, Collins all made the show unwatchable by removing any doubt for so long. I wasn't watching during Jennings' run but I'm sure it was interminable to see the same person demolish the competition every day for months.

Arthur Chu is considered "far" nerdier than Ken Jennings??!?! Really?

I actually think, far from being unwatchable, it's amazing watching the same person win day in and day out.

A few months before Chu blew up the Forrest Bounce, there was some guy from Georgia (named Andrew, I think) who did the same tactics and won five or six in a row. He was another one of those intense, fast-paced players but he mentioned both the Georgia Bulldogs and Ric Flair during his chats with Alex, so I know I could talk to that guy about at least two things if we ever met.

Watching somebody dominate Jeopardy like these folks do is like watching a World Series where one team wins every game by 10 runs. Exciting if you like that time, but boring if you're a fan of competition.

er, like that team.

his level of gamesmanship was SO HIGH; he knew to stall when he was ahead and rush answers when he was looking for the daily doubles so that he could maintain a pace that felt a little too rushed but clearly fell in his comfort zone.

this is otm, the episodes immediately after his run felt like amateur hour even though they were average, run-of-the-mill jeopardy matches.

I'm not really watching Jeopardy for the competition though. I mean if anything I am competing with the players.

I don't think other sports are exactly comparable, but I'm certainly not unhappy watching a pitcher dominate every start (unless that pitcher is Roger Clemens fuck that sweaty stubbly dickhead).

well there has to be some consideration for the best players under the 5-day limit regime and when the clues were all worth 1/2 less money.

just like from the ultimate tourney of champs and the decades stunt tourneys there've been a lot of really skilled players that its easy to forget abt when someone looks that dominant for a quick stretch

When somebody like Maddux or Pedro or Arrieta are on an all-time run the games can still be close depending on how the other players do. I guess it'd be more comparable to individual sports like tennis or golf, and I wonder how much precedent there is for an athlete in one of those sports to not just win a bunch in a row but completely blow the opponents out for a dozen straight events.

I think it's safe to say that Jackson is one of the best Jeopardy players ever. How he ranks exactly against Frank Spangenberg is really immaterial and basically immeasurable.

xp it's pretty rare for a single individual to do it (Woods and Federer are closest recent examples, in tennis there are usually either a couple of dudes or player has at least one weaker surface) but I don't think most people think it's boring when it happens.

no idea why you think i'm picking a fight with you about a conversation topic that feels utterly self evident and couldn't have been less aggressively phrased but if it makes you happy

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a lot of the backlash to arthur was racially motivated, though he was a lot more charismatic than matt. matt's not really comparable to arthur at all other than they both won a lot

i don't think i'd argue those points... but the fact that they won a lot is exactly what we ARE talking about!

The way Chu was chewed up online certainly makes me wary about the emphasis on Jackson's weirdness as opposed to his near-unrivaled dominance in games

Chu also seemed (and continues) to connect as a personality through social media in a more calculated and opinionated way. I dunno if Jackson even has a twitter account?

it's a bummer to me that Matt didn't have a mainstream Linsanity moment but i guess i overvalue jeopardy's culture share

chu's "weirdness" was tied into a stereotype of asian americans tho. idk what race has to do with the perception of matt's weirdness

he didn't (to me at least) immediately code as clearly black or white or indian or whatever and i daresay that offers greater ease to casually cast him as "other" and weird and social outlier.
he wasn't doing himself any favors but in the end it felt really clear to me that his mannerisms were at least partially gamesmanship and it worked!
in any case, the stress on the race point (which I continue to hold as valid) is not necessarily more important than potential ageism in terms of perception; it just apparently rubbed somebody on thread the wrong way.
i don't really wanna talk about intersectionality all day; it just rubbed me the wrong way that there was a dogpile to stress what a freak this kid is when what really sets him apart was how truly fucking amazing he is at playing the game.