I love that nobody can believe that two north american teams are at the top of their groups. And I really love that AHQ beat Fnatic with an overweight catfish wearing a toque. Also was really impressed by the crowd's reaction to AHQ's win - they were obviously deflated, Fnatic seems like it's the closest thing to a French national team in LoL, but they stood and clapped (those that didn't immediately evacuate the arena, anyway). The announcers were also talking about how awesome French live crowds are for live LoL matches. Fascinating.
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
Not terribly sad that China's no.1 and no.3 seeds are both 0-2, either.
Seems like LGD and IG having their marquee players get listed as four of the top 5 individual players in the tournament (http://worlds.lolesports.com/en_US/featured/top20/) was a bit of a Madden / SI curse. Should have seen that coming.
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 3 October 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
Here's where I'm following stuff
http://worlds.lolesports.com/en_US/worlds durr
http://www.youtube.com/user/LoLChampSeries/ hurr
http://www.sbnation.com/league-of-legends-lol-esports simple enough
Not really:http://www.thescoreesports.com/newshttp://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 3 October 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
Also disappointed that ilxor balls is not C9 balls
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 4 October 2015 00:14 (eight years ago) link
on the strength of a tombot recommendation I spent about eight minutes exploring if this was a thing I should consider or not and in fairly short order decided that this is one of many things (see also: tumblr, denim geekery, Game of Thrones) I've gotta sit out.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 4 October 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link
which is sad because I have such fond memories of tombot NFL sundays :(
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 4 October 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link
c9's storyline through the summer and now at worlds is just nuts
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link
C9's Heroes of the Storm team also won the North America championship, feel like the teamfight-heavy HotS games may have some advantages for casual spectatorship because it's more often legible what teams are trying to do, maybe.
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
i've never watched or played HotS, but from what i've heard it sounds like a much more streamlined MOBA (i.e. for noobz and casuals only,) so that may be true
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link
it's certainly more streamlined, the way I felt about it as a player is that when playing Dota 2 even after dozens of games I wasn't totally clear on what the right thing to do was and the game wasn't trying to teach me, whereas in HotS the right thing to do was often obvious and the feedback loop of shorter games made it easier to learn from the game what to do.
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
Which is to say people who have spent hundreds of hours getting baseline competent in Dota 2 and LoL could reasonably find HotS shallow but, like fighting games, the execution barrier that's meaningless to experienced players is massive to people who have never played before. None of which is necessarily relevant for spectatorship, but it might feed into which of these games (if any) has the most robust viewership in 10 years or whatever.
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link
It's in no way clever of me to point out that the Twitch Era has pretty much opened the door for this stuff in the US, and I think it's more than just the big mobas that are going to seep into the wider consciousness. The street fighter finals at EVO apparently peaked at 250,000 viewers on the Twitch stream this year, fighting games are pretty spectation-friendly (single screen, familiar metaphor (punching), quick matches).
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
i like the idea of a MOBA where the complexity of the game is folded more elegantly into the physics of it, in the manner of like smash bros, but i also love all the layers of nerdy details you have to think about to figure out the best way to play LoL in any given situation
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
HotS basically condenses league/dota down to the neutral objective fights (dragon/baron/roshan) which tend to be the most exciting parts of the game anyway. the downside is that theres very little expression of individual skill since all team resources are shared - feels like it's impossible for there to be an equivalent of Faker, i.e. a 'best player in the world' in HotS.
― ciderpress, Sunday, 4 October 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
quincie don't forget we had to coach you up to get into NFL games too.I seriously am considering getting a chromecast just for watching LoL on TV though
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 4 October 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link
c9's storyline through the summer and now at worlds is just nuts― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, October 4, 2015
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, October 4, 2015
Imagining the prop bet odds on the first pentakill of the tournament coming from C9 Balls
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
the big dota tournament this weekend had two hilarious sponsors - tostinos pizza rolls and soylent
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
hilarious AND apt
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
*makes "one the nose" gesture*
That reminds me did I tell everybody that this exists?
https://twitter.com/CokeEsports
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
"hey teen do you like eating but find it too difficult?"
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 5 October 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link
too time consuming, my APM suffers
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 5 October 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
i'll be honest all the totinos pizza rolls ads on twitch right now have made me want to eat pizza rolls for the first time since college. but i have resisted so far
― ciderpress, Monday, 5 October 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link
the ads are not good ads though, they just serve as constant reminders that pizza rolls are a food that exists
― ciderpress, Monday, 5 October 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link
i was disappointed that i didn't see any players drinking those soylent 2.0 drinks on stage
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Monday, 5 October 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
I have to admit my interest in the group stage has waned considerably for this second round, the "one group per day" agenda is frankly lame as all hell. If you don't catch the first two or three matches in the AM then who gives a shit? I went from watching almost every match on the rebroadcasts last week to watching basically nothing this week.
If C9 go home tomorrow I'll be SO PISSED.
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
Also some of the novelty of patch 5.18 pick/bans wore off - darius, boring, morde bans everywhere, a couple teams picked up veigar this week, that's like the big news.
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i didn't watch much of it either, one group a day is a terrible idea. i was interested to see dyrus' last game, though, i learned to play from watching him
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 10 October 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link
rip north america
― ciderpress, Sunday, 11 October 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
I like Origen but I wish they hadn't been put up against Flash Wolves to advance. No more Steak! There is always a reason to be sad.
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 16 October 2015 00:49 (eight years ago) link
KT not banning smeb's Fiora at all during this round seems profoundly stupid. On one hand, I don't mean to turn this into a subreddit. Still though this seems like a "pound the ball! top lane carry is for pussies!" type of approach to the game; as above, it's fun to watch the strategies evolve, but that also entails watching coaches show how ignorant they are. And I don't even play.
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/10/18/9563119/league-of-legends-2015-world-championships-results-scores-kt-rolster-koo
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
Lots of roster shakeups in the offseason. Also this:
...Instead of single-game matchups between opponents, weekly matches will take place over a best-of-3 series. The European LCS will be switching to a best-of-2 format...The NA LCS and EU LCS will have different formats due to cultural reasons, Riot explained in the release. Best-of-2 series in European soccer tournaments are not uncommon, while American sports are quite averse to ties.
The NA LCS and EU LCS will have different formats due to cultural reasons, Riot explained in the release. Best-of-2 series in European soccer tournaments are not uncommon, while American sports are quite averse to ties.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link
That's not going into effect until the summer season though, spring will still be single games
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
also my team got bought out so I have to pick a new one to support now
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link
were you team 8 for life?
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
gravity
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:07 (eight years ago) link
this is kind of reductive but LCS tends to just turn into a bunch of teams running rock into rock week after week and i'd rather root for the team that's trying to find paper even if they're not always successful
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
it does look like the raw talent is going to be better distributed in NA this year though so hopefully teams will have to step up their strategy
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
i think c9 has the most notable history of deviating from the strategic norm and finding success, in their original incarnation, anyway
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 10 December 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link
It's interesting to watch the stables try to settle.
The Doublelift to TSM drama didn't get near enough coverage, or I guess I just don't spend enough time on Reddit? Star QB switches to a rival team, shortly after pantsing said team in the playoffs, and not because they offered more money - but because his original team cut him! This is scripted TV level craziness.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 December 2015 03:42 (eight years ago) link
I was sad to hear LemonNation retired from C9. He always seemed to me like the most relatable guy in LCS to me. Is he coaching now? For C9 or who?
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 December 2015 03:44 (eight years ago) link
yeah he's C9 coach now
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 December 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
i'm interested to see how C9's season goes with Rush as their jungler, he's probably the most exciting player to watch in NA at the moment
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
Did TSM just decide to go the full Steinbrenner for this season?
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
TSM has always been pretty analogous to the yankees
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
i know something exciting happened in LOL this week regarding some guy teleporting back to his base and getting killed? like twice in a row? but i couldn't understand exactly the import of what is was. can someone plz explain?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link
the "Mark" summoner spell lets you teleport to the location of a target after first hitting them with a snowball. Froggen was in a 1v1 with Doublelift at the All-Star invitational whatever and two matches in a row he hits DL with the snowball and then teleports to DL's location while DL is running back to his home tower. I think early in the game the base turrets can just about one-shot you, so that happened.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link
yeah tldr it was just a funny and improbable game mechanics interaction that happened causing someone to get insta-killed, then they decided to just restart the game since it was a showmatch, and it happened again
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/12/14/10105038/doublelift-froggen-all-stars-snowball-1-v-1
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
Wait why is ZionSpartan singing Bieber songs on youtube now
This is a very confusing sport to follow
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/12/18/10612480/nca-lcs-spring-split-2016-schedule-start-date
― El Tomboto, Monday, 28 December 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link