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RIP

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/us/pope-francis-archbishop-joseph-tobin-newark-archdiocese.html

this seems like a positive development

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd54HzNI_Rk

As always, the main cultural signifier here isn't religion so much as nationality, class and coming from a family that shoves you in front of a set that resembles a tidied up Rosemary's baby in order to answer questions about your sexual lack of history

haven't seen rosemary's baby

but yes, catholicism is definitely tied to local culture (i'm not sure i'd say nationality)

Family first, then social circle then community then school then nationality

Church can fit in p much anywhere there depending on the severity of the infectiom

true

was talking catholicism with an acquaintance the other night. we were remarking how we were still pretty earnest and believing, if with plenty of doubts, when we made our confirmations and had chosen confirmation names accordingly. i chose san martin de porres (mixed-race peruvian saint a sort of patron saint on anti-racism and the poor), and he chose st anthony - because his mother was always telling him to pray to st anthony as he was always losing things. he had a friend who chose zeno, because it was the funniest name of a saint other than homobonus that he could find and he knew he'd get in trouble if he said he was choosing homobonus

haha

man having two confirmation saints is hard work lemme tell u

to answer questions about your sexual lack of history

I thought we were talking about Catholic girls?

Saint Dorkus is another classic

what was it like backing frank black?

please help me understand the de Auxiliis controversy. the question is that god grants grace to man without man having to do anything but this doesn't sit right with jesuits bc man should participate in his own redemption or am i completely misunderstanding the point of contention?

From a quick read in Wikipedia, it appears to be more of a question of how the doctrine of free will affects a person's ability to accept or reject grace and hinges upon the intricacies of how god's omnipotence and omniscience would work in a system where god is trying to bestow grace, knowing ahead of time it will be rejected. It is the usual tying oneself in knots to overcome inherent flaws in the logic of church dogma and doctrine.

and determinism

kind of thing which i find too boring to get into too much - no disrespect to theology in general but this particular dispute has me yawning. seems like both sides kind of viewed causation as a zero sum game. the more god does the less the individual does and vice cersa. bañez and the dominicans believed in physical premotion, the influence of god on the will of the person who acts on that will, jesuits found this overly deterministic, though they did believe in god knowing everything that could happen including counterfactuals, and creating the world as it is while knowing all the options so that always seemed kind of deterministic to me also

determinism vs free will obviously a very old question and lots of great apologetics out there reconciling omniscience and free will etc but this seems to be specifically be about the efficaciousness of grace specifically, and aiui specifically as relates to its conveyance automatically iow without the actual participation of the sinner but maybe w/ some level of his participation acc to jesuits? this is precisely the point i am trying to understand.

a quick google tells me this is "one of theologies most exciting debates"

theology's. fuck.

i feel like this is something that you can't just make a pithy summation of that will explain too much. although if it were i would not be in such a position to do so

especially because earlier debates in the church precede and inform it (the dominicans are augustinian thomists)

i thought augustinianism and thomism were different?

where are some underrated aerosmith bootlegs to enlighten me

Xp.Yeah they are. Thomas Aquinas both draws from and disagrees with Augustine, I guess I should've said that Dominican theological position on grace and predestination draws from aquinas and thomas

i mean, no catholic believes in predestination

right?

Well the Jansenists did and they claimed to just be disciples of Augustine

no catholic believes in predestination...right?

After you've been catechized, the church cares little about the private little heresies of its communicants, so long as they don't make a big issue out of them. If you are a priest or some other official of the church it's trickier, and you'd better be able to couch your determinism in the kind of theologically acceptable obscurantist terminology that won't get you in trouble with the church hierarchy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell

^Because I was wondering went on during those three days.

metal as fuck

Martin Luther: [looks directly at the camera, Office-style] https://t.co/s9EFy1IZPe

— Adam Kotsko (@adamkotsko) March 22, 2020

capitalism: this fuckin thing has exposed most of our activities as painfully blatant scams

catholicism: hold my bier

lol x 2

What a world

https://www.aod.org/sacramentsupdate

peter at the pearly gates: i'm sorry, we can't let you in. looks like there was some sort of administrative error down there on earth. it's gonna take a while to clean up. don't worry, there's a waiting room *nods toward purgatory*

“Look it’s not a big deal, minor administrative snafu, well get it figured out, but in the meantime don’t die because of you do youre going to hell”

so...if the priest wasn't technically baptized all that time, does that mean that the people he baptized are also at risk of eternal hell due to administrative error?

so...if the priest wasn't technically baptized all that time, does that mean that the people he baptized are also at risk of eternal hell due to administrative error?

The church (shrugs): Hey, God makes the rules, we don't.

administrative assistant to god: god dammit, we've got another memo from earth. it's another policy clarification request.
god: let me guess, fucking b-
admin assistant to god: baptism, yep, it's baptism again.
god: it's whatever they want. it's whatever they want. we've told them this. i don't care. this is the least important planet on my plate. this planet shouldn't even BE on my plate

okay I have a dumb question:

When you put ash on your forehead for Ash Wednesday... where does the ash come from? Is it special, sanctified ash, or just some regular old ash from the bottom of the BBQ?

thanks in advance from an ignorant protestant

Who even knows where the hosts come from? probably some warehouse in Skipton!

They are supposedly from the previous Palm Sunday’s palm leaves? I never knew this though tbh I never paid attention in either Mass or religion class.

so does a priest have to daub the ash on your forehead? Or is it DIY

At primary school I was told it was previous years Palm Sunday's Palms.

Priest
xp to me

At school the teachers used to give us a row if anybody wiped them off our foreheads.

Who even knows where the hosts come from? probably some warehouse in Skipton!

My mum as a lifetime on/off lapsed catholic buys wafers as a substitute because she fell in love with communion hosts at an early age ... I'm not making this up! Had no idea they were widely available online. At least now I have a good birthday pressie option for her.

in my presbyterian youth, we used sourdough bread (very NorCal) and welch's grape juice.. everybody got their own shot glass, we didn't share a cup