Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Wondering if it compensates for track lengths or if it's just the standard audioscrobbler 2 minutes = tick! algorithm. Listening to a 60 minute track represents just as much commitment to an artist as a 15 track album.

steppenwolf in white van speaker scam (ledge), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

Some of our things are duration-sensitive, some are not. Most of our playlist-generation things also use constrained duration ranges, because sticking a 60:00 track into a multi-song playlist is usually worse than picking something shorter. For some of my genre-based lists I have specific exceptions to this, so 18:30 symphony movements are OK in classical, for instance...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

LOL at that list above that starts w "I Feel Good"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

well MY discover playlist updated, and while it's a TERRIFIC mix in terms of Other Songs By Acts You Like, And Big Hits By Acts Like Act You Like, the word "discover" feels downright sarcastic to describe it

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

Big Hits By Acts Like Acts You Like, rather

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

that's not totally fair, though. I count about 3 groups I haven't heard before, and maybe 5 or 6 big acts that I might not have gotten around to playing on Spotify yet. But one of those is "How Soon Is Now" by the Smiths.

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

I enjoy my Discover playlist. I finally listened to Magazine (like The Clash meets Joy Division!) and John Maus or whatever. Both artists I had heard of but never explored. Bonus points for throwing in Compulsion by Martin Gore, but with the two exceptions I mentioned above, none of the tracks or artists were Discoveries. It's a good start though.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

i say this not to say "this sucks" - because i totally listen to this solid playlist. it's more that I would also LOVE a discover spotify playlist that avoiding picking songs and bands it should be transparent I've already discovered based on my listening history.

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

This will come...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

cool!

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

I would love to see what hoary chestnuts are in mine, but it's doing that thing where you start the program and have to wait for 3-5 minutes of spinning animations before any of the panels populate with anything.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

I know its been gone forever but getting rid of the starred feature is still almost enough to jump. I miss it every day. I try to use the plus sign in the same way but now don't have a one click way to add a whole album to listen to later without adding every track to my favorite tracks. I just don't get why that feature was removed, WHYYYYYYY.

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

the worst thing is that the Star list is still there but i can't make additions so it sits there and mocks me.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

well i can add to it but not by just hitting a star so i,m not doing it.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link

glenn, feel free to cut and paste this to a higher up muckety muck if it's helpful:

I am a spotify power user and have the service running about 18 hours a day. Following repeated dissatisfaction with updated versions of Spotify, I downgraded to v.8.5 several months ago. It functions easier and the interface is far cleaner. Though I do miss some of the updated features, statistics and the ability to subscribe to artists, I have not been tempted to upgrade at any point.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

yeah haven't added a single track to it since the feature was removed xp.

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

Re: starring, you can just drag the album cover over to the Starred playlist. Or any other playlist.

The new client has been dramatically improved since several months ago, so a) you could try it again, and b) if you aren't willing to try it again, you're kind of saying you don't care whether it's actually better now, which is totally your prerogative but kind of makes your feedback moot.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

Still waiting for DW update. Not really expecting Roborec to be like the proverbial cool kid in high school back in the day, just want it to be basically in the right direction with a couple of new Topics For Further Research. Still, lol at the "I Feel Good" playlist.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

xp I will likely retry an upgrade at some point to see what's improved; my point is that feature bloat and functionality wavering is scaring me off

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

Re: starring, you can just drag the album cover over to the Starred playlist. Or any other playlist.

The new client has been dramatically improved since several months ago, so a) you could try it again, and b) if you aren't willing to try it again, you're kind of saying you don't care whether it's actually better now, which is totally your prerogative but kind of makes your feedback moot.

― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:33 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's ways around all of this of course (with a couple steps) but being able to star a track on the phone at a stop light or on my desktop without having to drag anything around was my favorite feature. idk whatever i should get over it probs but then i start messing around on apple music and see that little heart that I can click by the track and start to wondering...

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

I haven't gotten over it. Stars forever.

Jeff, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

http://www.searchviews.com/images/sneetches.gif

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

people complaining itt will receive aaron neville's cotton jingle repeated 12 times in their discover playlist next week

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Latest playlist looks okay. Mostly reasonably familiar, some novelties, one band I hate. I'll take it.

Lol at Sneetches.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

i still love spotify! i probably won't leave it xp. DONT MESS WITH MY DW PLAYLIST OK

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Have to say, in the 6(?) weeks of Discover Weekly, I have been led to at least six albums I love that I didn't know of before, including at least one band I had previously ignored due to their shitty name

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link

spotify sent me spotifymail in Portuguese because I listen to some Brazilian music?

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

Legal.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

does one need to upgrade to Spotify Premium in order to get this 'about' tab and the information about monthly listeners and stuff? I have Spotify Unlimited and I can't see it

soref, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

xp don't get me wrong. i love that i can trick spotify into believing that i am a bilingual person with an interest in exercise. but it'd be nice if spotify knew that I am neither of those things. and if spotify could also interpret my dreams. so many sheaves of corn in there doing myriad things.

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

I also loved the star feature - adding something to my library isn't the same, and going through multiple steps to add something to the star playlist isn't nearly as convenient and quick, particularly if I'm distracted. I have no idea why that feature went away.

One feature I do like that Spotify added was the quick scrolling index on the right when you look up your albums/playlists/artists. I've built a big collection of saved music and it was a pain getting to the bottom of the list manually.

Things that are still on my wish list:

-Spotify automatically adds music from your iPhone to Spotify
-Local files can be integrated into your saved albums (right now I have to access all my personal music via saved playlists)
-playback history that's more substantive than just a short list of "recently played" albums - if I'm listening to an 8 hr playlist that someone put together I'd like to know where I left off when I come back to the app.

musically, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

http://www.spotify-mixmates.com/

Kinda wish they'd just do this by checking out both yours and your mate's listening history. Like a mash-up of the intersection of both of your DW lists...

schwantz, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

Things that are still on my wish list:

For me, multiple tabs/windows. If I'm browsing through a huge artist discography, click away from it to play something, and go back to the huge discog, I've got to scroll through the same mile of stuff (that can't be counted on to be in chronological order). Is it to prevent people from gaming the royalty system by playing multiple streams simultaneously? Seems like it would be pretty easy to write a safeguard into the app so that only one stream can play at a time.

Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link

^^^ yeah, this

sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

Def

Spottie, Thursday, 24 September 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link

Glenn, is that anything that's ever come up in Spotifyville?

Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:31 (eight years ago) link

"For a song like 'All About That Bass', that I wrote, which had 178 million streams.. I mean $5,679? That's my share,"
"That's as big a song as a songwriter can have in their career and number one in 78 countries. But you're making $5,600 (£3,700).

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/88542

piscesx, Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:37 (eight years ago) link

So there is a God after all.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link

I suspect, as with the referenced similar Aloe Blacc complaint, he's actually talking about Pandora, not Spotify. "All About That Bass" has 290m streams on Spotify, which would be worth about $290k in publishing royalties. Dunno what his deal is like, but if his publisher takes half and he splits the rest with Meghan, he'd get $70k+ just from Spotify.

Plus, if he gets any part of the performance royalties, from producing the song, those are 5x the publishing. (From Spotify. Pandora is different...)

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

I don't know why we haven't done multiple windows. Probably just never seemed as high-priority as other things...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

It would be so nice to have "playlist I'm listening to right now" and "artist discog I'm pondering for future listening" both visible at the same time, or in tabs I can jump between without losing my spot in either one. This has been at the top of my wish list for a while now:

Still hoping for multiple tabs/windows in the desktop app UI.

― WilliamC, Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:45 AM (1 year ago)

Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

You can have multiple tabs/windows of the web UI open at once. Not the same thing, I realize, but better than nothing for some purposes...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

the burger menu concept on ios is a headache. having to climb all the way back to the top just to do something like toggle offline mode drives me insane. (the fact that i even have to use offline mode also drives me insane but spotify support had no answers for that.)

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link

Yeah it's pretty terrible. It's like you've driven a car into a dead-end alley and you have to brake, change the gear, look behind you, and reverse around a couple of corners just in order to get to the next place you want to go.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

I mean, burger menus are fine if they're always present, or invokable with a simple gesture.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

or always present. if spotify's burger menu were at least accessible from all screens, not just the top-level ones, it'd be heaps easier to work with.

really it should go back to tabs tbh.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link

ahh those graphs are brutal!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

for a couple weeks everytime i pulled up the play.spotify.com web player it defaulted to a smoking popes album i'm pretty sure i never listened to in the first place, it was quite distressing as you can imagine

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link

Spotify should deliver burgers

brimstead, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link

dis burger weekly

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 September 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link


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