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Kendrys Morales' three HR and triple tonight the seventh time that's ever been done. I wouldn't have guessed even that many.

clemenza, Monday, 21 September 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

When was last time fore this?

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 21 September 2015 03:48 (eight years ago) link

And a walk!

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 September 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link

ryan braun, april 30, 2012

then 1975

then 1950

mookieproof, Monday, 21 September 2015 04:23 (eight years ago) link

Do you have play index, mookie? I'd be interested in knowing who the other five were.

clemenza, Monday, 21 September 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

i don't, but these are the dates it gives if you want to look them up individually

2015-09-20
2012-04-30
1975-06-18
1950-06-24
1945-07-13
1936-05-24
1928-06-02

mookieproof, Monday, 21 September 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

Thanks, I'll try to figure it out tonight if I get ambitious. Checking high-scoring games from 1975-06-18, zeroed in on Lynn's famous game: 5 for 6, triple, 3 HR, 4 runs, 10 RBI.

clemenza, Monday, 21 September 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

Wes Westrum (C) for the NY Giants in 1950 vs. the Reds, final score 12-2
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NY1/NY1195006240.shtml

Interestingly it WASN'T in the Pirates-Dodgers game from the same day, where the score was 21-12 for Brooklyn

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Started looking up the 3-HR/triple guys, but couldn't find anybody for 1945-07-13--that date might be wrong.

Came across this in the Toronto Sun yesterday, so who knows how reliable it is: Marcus Stroman is the third guy ever, and first since a couple of Pirates in 1901 and 1902, to get his first three starts of the season in September and win all three. That seems kind of amazing. I know September call-ups are generally relegated to the bullpen, but you'd think there'd be at least a few in there who would have started and managed to win their first three starts.

clemenza, Friday, 25 September 2015 11:48 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

Had some time to kill in a mall yesterday, so I bought a preseason annual off the magazine rack (Athlon's), something I haven't done in probably a decade. I've got a ton of Street & Smith and Sporting News annuals from the '70s/'80s/'90s.

The end-page has a list of "Abstruse Stuff That Never Happened Until 2015." A few, like Daniel Murphy, were well publicized, but a few that caught my eye.

-- Nolan Arenadol's 89 XBH at third was a record--don't recall hearing that
-- Evan Gattis first guy weighing at least 260 to hit 11 triples (one of those phony combination stats: probably a lot of guys weighing 259 have hit 10)
-- Pierzynski first guy to hit exactly .300 four times
-- Chris Young vs. Altuve in the playoffs: first 16-inch height differential
-- 30+ doubles first 11 seasons (Cano)

Also, first time "abstruse" has ever been used in a baseball annual.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

What's the record for HR in a loss? The White Sox hit seven solo home runs today and lost to the Jays, 10-8.

clemenza, Saturday, 25 June 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

apparently that tied the record! the Detroit Tigers had the record to themselves before today, via two separate occasions:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=199505280DET

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=200408080DET

i don't know how up to date baseball almanac is, though.

nomar, Saturday, 25 June 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link

looks like just those two (or so it would seem; i don't actually have a b-ref subscription). looking it up led me to this insane game, in which the losing team hit six and neither starter got more than one out:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN197905170.shtml

mookieproof, Saturday, 25 June 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

Thanks. They mentioned the more recent Tigers game just after I posted.

clemenza, Saturday, 25 June 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Kris Bryant's three home runs and two doubles tonight is the first time that's happened since 1913? That's so weird--much rarer than even four home runs.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmzlnvwWEAAlLaU.jpg

(former pirates opening day starter) oliver perez just joined this list of recent relievers with two hits in a game

mookieproof, Friday, 8 July 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

the orioles have tied the major league record (set by themselves in 1998-99) by going 58 straight games without a triple

mookieproof, Friday, 5 August 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

Jays striking out 61 times in a 4-game series (22/14/14/11) must be a record.

clemenza, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

AP confirms

"Houston pitchers had a major league-record 61 strikeouts in the four-game series — three more than the previous mark set by Cincinnati pitchers against San Diego in 2008. Astros pitchers also set a three-game series record with 52 against Baltimore from May 24-26."

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 August 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

congrats to BCrawford, u hairy fuckin' stud, on yr 7-hit game.

The previous player to get seven hits in a game was Pittsburgh Pirates infielder Rennie Stennett on Sept. 16, 1975, at the Chicago Cubs. He did it in nine innings, the only big leaguer to accomplish that feat since before 1900.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

brewers just became (i'm told) the eighth team since 1940 to score in every inning (assuming they don't have to play the bottom of the ninth)

there have been 18 perfect games since 1940

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

only eight?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 11 August 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

update

It was the eighth time since 1961 a team has scored in each inning it hit during a nine-inning game, the Elias Sports Bureau said.

mookieproof, Friday, 12 August 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link

how bout my Brewers

frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

Jays the first team since the '54 Indians to win five straight series in Yankee Stadium.

Second one today, not as interesting: Osuna first 21-year-old to reach 47 career saves.

Bad news: Donaldson removed himself from the game with a possible hand injury.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

(Tyler) Naquin’s walkoff inside-the-parker was the second in club history, with the other coming in 1916 – by Braggo Roth at Dunn Field (later named League Park).

http://tribevibe.mlblogs.com/2016/08/20/photo-gallery-cleveland-indians-win-on-second-straight-tyler-naquin-walk-off/?partnerId=as_cle_20160820_65085866&adbid=10154466211519521&adbpl=fb&adbpr=46104914520

earlnash, Saturday, 20 August 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

An e-mail to James points out that the Cubs had Rizzo, Szczur, Zastryzny, Baez, and Zobrist in their lineup at one point Friday night. I don't think Play Index will be of help here.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 August 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

Cubs need to look into a trade for Rzepczynski

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 August 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

lance zawadzki is waiting by the phone

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 August 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

Just noticed who sent the e-mail: one "bobzeni"!

clemenza, Sunday, 21 August 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

(Rest of ILB: "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...")

clemenza, Sunday, 21 August 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Reds bullpen gave up it's record setting 93rd HR breaking the record of 92 from the 1964 KC A's!

They still got a shot at 100 with 16 games to go! I'm sure Kris Bryant has a couple more 4-5 games with 3HRs and 2x2Bs left in him against Reds pitching.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/reds-reach-dubious-records-in-9-7-10-inning-loss-to-pirates/2016/09/17/f96d465a-7c93-11e6-8064-c1ddc8a724bb_story.html

earlnash, Saturday, 17 September 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

@AJCassavell
Hunter Renfroe is the first player to be intentionally walked in his first big league plate appearance since Luis Lopez in 2001.

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

see also: https://twitter.com/johnmanuelba/status/778995833177972736

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-most-extraordinary-team-statistic

Reds pitchers have a -1.2 WAR. No pitching staff has ever finished with a negative WAR.

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

teixeira hit his 409th homer last night; it was the first (regular season) walk-off homer of his career

he had been the player to hit the most homers without a walk-off -- not sure who it is now

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

A true 2016 record pointed out by the Jays' broadcasters: Jays the first team to have their starters lead the league in IP without a complete game.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 October 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link

Matt Sussman, BP:

Ryan Schimpf finished the season with 20 home runs and 18 singles. Only he, Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds (minimum 200 PA) can say they did that. Which means, of course, that Ryan Schimpf is not going to be a Hall of Famer.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link

the 2016 indians, plus these 14 other teams, are the only clubs to make the playoffs without hitting a grand slam

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

I thought there was another thread for general baseball weirdness...Anyway, in nine out of eleven seasons, the "most similar by age" for Alex Gonzalez of the Jays/Cubs was the other Alex Gonzalez. For their careers, they had a similarity score of 906.

Alex Gonzalez #1 (1994-2006): 5528 PA, 137 HR, .243/.302/.391, 79 OPS+
Alex Gonzalez #2 (1998-2014): 6248 PA, 157 HR, .245/.290/.395, 79 OPS+

Not sure if there was a sizable similarity bonus for their names.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:11 (five years ago) link

both played for Toronto as some point too!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link

I’m going to be perfectly honest, I’m not sure that I knew there were two different Alex Gonzalezes.

omar little, Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I don't know where to put this...

Posnanski was writing about Luis Tiant today. Where he and Gibson stood on July 4, 1968:

Gibson: 10-5, 1.13 ERA, 151 innings, 109 Ks, 31 walks, .180 batting average against
Tiant: 13-5, 1.11 ERA, 146 innings, 150 Ks, 43 walks, .161 batting average against

Tiant, at that point, was having a better season than what is generally considered the greatest season (or at least the equal of one of Pedro's big two) by a post-war starter.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 April 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

Put it in the record books—the Mariners have hit a home run in 1️⃣5️⃣ straight games to start the season. 💥 pic.twitter.com/tIAHp1lZNC

— Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) April 11, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Made me smile:

Today's news prompted me to look up Satchel Paige, wondering if he might be in line for any records. Not close. But I did find out that the active leader in complete games, Verlander with 26, is not in the Top 1,000 on the all-time list, but a whole bunch of guys with 1 are tied for 98th on the active list.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Can one game have any predictive value for the HOF? Found this reader e-mail to James today fascinating.

There are 13 pitchers who have had game scores of at least 100 in a 9 inning game. Of these, 9 are either in the Hall of Fame (Spahn, Koufax, Ryan, Randy Johnson, or have a very good chance to be selected (Schilling, Kershaw, Scherzer, Verlander, Gerrit Cole). The other four were Nap Rucker, Kerry Wood, Brandon Morrow, and Matt Cain. Can you think of anything else a player can do in 3% of his season that comes close to being this predictive of his chances of making the Hall?

And Wood and Cain had potential HOF careers derailed by injury.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 June 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

20K games have (what should be) an 75% HOF success rate:
clemens, randy johnson, kerry wood, max scherzer

k3vin k., Saturday, 5 June 2021 01:09 (two years ago) link

Can't seem to conjure one up on the internet, but I think a list of 15-plus-Ks/no-walks games also yields a high percentage of HOF'ers.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 June 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link

was wondering if 4 HR games might also be predictive but then I remember that Scooter Gennett had one

frogbs, Saturday, 5 June 2021 03:52 (two years ago) link

lol, I did the very same!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 04:04 (two years ago) link

that is super interesting.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Don't know if it's a record, but one of Thermo's FB posts prompted me to look up Tony Gwynn's career splits, and Gwynn hit .302 for his career with two strikes (2053 plate appearances). I find that other-worldly. Checked Ichiro as a point of comparison: .253 over 4456 PA. (So Gwynn's splits are incomplete--and sure enough, nothing for Carew.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

According to this piece, it is indeed Gwynn. followed by bonds, then Helton!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

but ya. probably not a lot of info on that going back a little.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

That’s extraordinary.

I would have thought Boggs was up there. Whenever he got to two strikes my dad would go “now he’s got him right where he wants him.”

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link

Looks like he was .262. Respectable but not even close.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link

Never thought to check Boggs--should have. I really wonder about Carew; wouldn't be shocked if he was .275+, he had amazing bat control.

clemenza, Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

gwynn's 1997, especially - .358 even with 2-strikes!

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 December 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

oh – and the post that got clem and i talking about two-strike hitting, was a video i shared of every two-strike foul ball Bo Bichette hit last season (there was well over 200, easily leading the league). he also led baseball, by a wide margin in total foul balls at 664.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 December 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

haha, being awesome at hitting foul balls is very bad for watching baseball, but very good for Bo Bichette! stick control

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link


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