OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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from the first post on that thread:

"Comfy, Acoustic, Literate, Upscale, Non-Threatening......... what else???? (white?)"

scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

non-threatening is good. i would add toothless. just because.

scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

to be fair, those listeners are the only people who never forgot tracy chapman.

scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

to be fair, those listeners are the only people who never forgot tracy chapman.
--scott seward

Pitchfork 80s list stans for Tracy Chapman

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

"Fast Car" is one of the greatest songs ever written

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 September 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link

I got a plan to get us outta this thread

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link

Be someone
Be someone

;_;

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 September 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link

i will stan for tracy chapman any day. she remains a bucket list concert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jakwsneGokg

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 September 2015 06:09 (eight years ago) link

I don't really read many music sites so I'm a bit nonplussed at the word count and approx reading time in the Battles piece... is that normal practice these days or am I right in finding that kind of weird?

ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 19 September 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

That was the first thing I noticed as well. Was going to make fun of it but then realized that I'm not sure whether it's normal, either.

Evan, Saturday, 19 September 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

A fair amount of big-name sites (Slate, Vox, etc.) do that now. It's the New Thing.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 19 September 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah approximate reading time is the norm now

balls, Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

I'm a very busy man so i appreciate this information. I just wish they gave a range, from the time it would take to scroll for key info to the time it would take to savor each phrase like fine wine

da croupier, Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

this is a weird way to open a review of a roland young compilation (it's quite a poorly-written review in general:

Lines can and should be drawn between the notion of the working musician and that of the charlatan. The working musician applies their skill as a trade and makes decisions on how to do so based on merit and need; the charlatan does not treat their skill as such, and applies it however strikes their fancy. It might be fun for a charlatan to be in a band as a way to meet people and gain access to parties, drugs, and discounted alcohol. The working musician sees each gig as a way to make next month’s rent. They may have a side job as a baseline of financial stability (if that) but the idea of playing, of being artists, of expressing themselves, drives them to keep going.

So, let no one ever refer to Roland Young as a charlatan.

the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

Lines can and should be drawn between the notion of the working musician and that of the charlatan. The working musician applies their skill as a trade and makes decisions on how to do so based on merit and need; the charlatan does not treat their skill as such, and applies it however strikes their fancy. It might be fun for a charlatan to be in a band as a way to meet people and gain access to parties, drugs, and discounted alcohol. The working musician sees each gig as a way to make next month’s rent. They may have a side job as a baseline of financial stability (if that) but the idea of playing, of being artists, of expressing themselves, drives them to keep going.

Fred? He's a charlatan, and we should kick him out of the band.

da croupier, Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link

No place for charlatans in a business built around getting on a stage in front of people and performing an act for them.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 September 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

No surprise Lefsetz in a recent email/blog postingis all excited about that Seabrook book quoted in that Atlantic book review above, and not questioning much

And if there aren't enough hooks in the track, they start all over. They're in the business of hit singles, not album dreck. And they know one hook is not enough, that you've got to grab the public instantly and continue to thrill them.

And this formula is working.

I'm not judging it, just telling you how it is.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 20 September 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

gadzooks

the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Sunday, 20 September 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

"And they know one hook is not enough, that you've got to grab the public instantly and continue to thrill them."

"And this formula is working."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CI-0E_jses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhyhP_5VfKM

scott seward, Sunday, 20 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

Need to get back to the days of artistically pure dreck, IMO.

hardcore dilettante, Sunday, 20 September 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

http://www.maxlandiswrites.com/macklemore-white-eminem/

maura, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

should I click, maura

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

HOT TURDAKES

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

"should I click, maura"

don't do it.

scott seward, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Is that the same Max Landis famous for 'scripts' for Ghostbusters III, Super Mario Bros. The Movie, and other fanart things that every kid of that generation made up w their friends on the bus to school?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

In the 2010s, the era of Macklemore, mainstream top 40 rap, with a few notable exceptions some of whom I’ve already mentioned, is getting…What’s the word…Stupider. Not in a bad way, but the rise of artists like Young Thug, a man who raps like a homeless man yelling, Pitbull, a fun raconteur whose every song seems to be a rearranged grouping of a limited number of catchphrases, and Tyga, whose songs about excess and irresponsibility are so simplistically worded that they border on accidental self parody, the art form is folding in on itself. Standing amongst this wreckage on the pop charts is a seemingly perpetually calm man with an interesting haircut rapping quietly to you about gay marriage, how nice it is to hang out with your friends, and the perks of owning a moped; he’s wearing your grandpa’s clothes, and he looks incredible.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

BLACK BAD WHITE GOOD

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

finally a stoic rapper in neat clothes and an interesting haircut, enjoying camaraderie and owning novel modes of transportation

da croupier, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

Pitbull, a fun raconteur

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link

Young Thug, a man who raps like a homeless man yelling

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

Macklemore IS happy, he’s stylish, he’s upbeat and occasionally is going to fuck a fat girl.

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:03 (eight years ago) link

well he does ride mopeds

balls, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

we were talking about some seabrook thing here, weren't we?

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link

Good candidate for it, yup.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

Ted Gioia is back, you guys:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/11/is-artisanal-music-the-next-new-thing.html

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

this is it

this is the nopegularity

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

wowwwwwwwww "artisanal music" I can't believe someone actually went there lol

marcos, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link

I am offended on so many levels.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link

"But check out Ms. Lauryn Hill channeling Nina Simone on her latest album. "

wut

based grandpa (noz), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 01:59 (eight years ago) link

"Nimble young labels such as New Amsterdam, Brainfeeder, Innova, ANTI-, Sunnyside, Acony, Tzadik, Third Man, XL Recordings, Motéma, Mack Avenue, FatCat,"

wut

based grandpa (noz), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link

sexy young labels that know how to plz a man where it counts

balls, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link

need to check out that new lauryn hill album

balls, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link

seems a long way to go just to not say millennial males
embrace it

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 03:10 (eight years ago) link

"You don’t want to be a musical Monsanto in this brave new world!"

What an astounding article. It's like an onion of wrong - layers within layers.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 08:47 (eight years ago) link

Really want a Gioia/Lefsetz co-headlining lecture/debate tour now.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 09:41 (eight years ago) link

you joke but that is a real possibility

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

Haha is there a label on that list less than 20 years old?

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

That article is truly terrible, but I thought the guy's jazz books were meant to be pretty good?

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link


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