I like how the writer of the Battles piece spells John Stanier's last name wrong twice in the first paragraph, then just gets on a first-name basis with them for the rest of the piece. And honestly, he's gotten a little better - he only did the that's-almost-the-adjective-you-want thing a few times, as opposed to doing it in every sentence like he used to.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 18 September 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link
alabama shakes, fairly or unfairly, strikes me like the aughties version of Hootie
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 September 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
they need to have at least one hit single first to earn that comparison
― da croupier, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
imo they're more the '10s Lone Justice
― da croupier, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
I feel like this is verging on needing a separate thread, but it was interesting to me to read the contrast between that NPR interview and the comments thereon -- perhaps not surprisingly, a lot of NPR listeners (and probably a lot of music fans in general) really resist political readings of any popular music or the placing of music in a political context.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 18 September 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
a josh ritter/alabama shakes/carolina chocolate drops show around here would be pandemonium. latte in the streets...
― scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
"resist political readings of any popular music or the placing of music in a political context."
they really like things comfy casual.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
the choc drops stuff is really explicitly socially political and explores historical ideas about race and appropriation in a way that very few bands were doingof course, that's not quite what got them on the national radar and they've basically atomized these days into new projects anyway
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 September 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
there is a thread for that too:
Can we agree on a definition - "NPR Rock" ??
― scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
from the first post on that thread:
"Comfy, Acoustic, Literate, Upscale, Non-Threatening......... what else???? (white?)"
― scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
non-threatening is good. i would add toothless. just because.
to be fair, those listeners are the only people who never forgot tracy chapman.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
to be fair, those listeners are the only people who never forgot tracy chapman. --scott seward
Pitchfork 80s list stans for Tracy Chapman
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
"Fast Car" is one of the greatest songs ever written
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 September 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link
I got a plan to get us outta this thread
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link
Be someoneBe someone
;_;
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 September 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link
i will stan for tracy chapman any day. she remains a bucket list concert.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jakwsneGokg
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 September 2015 06:09 (eight years ago) link
I don't really read many music sites so I'm a bit nonplussed at the word count and approx reading time in the Battles piece... is that normal practice these days or am I right in finding that kind of weird?
― ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 19 September 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
That was the first thing I noticed as well. Was going to make fun of it but then realized that I'm not sure whether it's normal, either.
― Evan, Saturday, 19 September 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link
A fair amount of big-name sites (Slate, Vox, etc.) do that now. It's the New Thing.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 19 September 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link
yeah approximate reading time is the norm now
― balls, Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link
I'm a very busy man so i appreciate this information. I just wish they gave a range, from the time it would take to scroll for key info to the time it would take to savor each phrase like fine wine
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
this is a weird way to open a review of a roland young compilation (it's quite a poorly-written review in general:
Lines can and should be drawn between the notion of the working musician and that of the charlatan. The working musician applies their skill as a trade and makes decisions on how to do so based on merit and need; the charlatan does not treat their skill as such, and applies it however strikes their fancy. It might be fun for a charlatan to be in a band as a way to meet people and gain access to parties, drugs, and discounted alcohol. The working musician sees each gig as a way to make next month’s rent. They may have a side job as a baseline of financial stability (if that) but the idea of playing, of being artists, of expressing themselves, drives them to keep going.
So, let no one ever refer to Roland Young as a charlatan.
― the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link
Fred? He's a charlatan, and we should kick him out of the band.
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link
No place for charlatans in a business built around getting on a stage in front of people and performing an act for them.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 September 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
No surprise Lefsetz in a recent email/blog postingis all excited about that Seabrook book quoted in that Atlantic book review above, and not questioning much
And if there aren't enough hooks in the track, they start all over. They're in the business of hit singles, not album dreck. And they know one hook is not enough, that you've got to grab the public instantly and continue to thrill them.
And this formula is working.
I'm not judging it, just telling you how it is.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 20 September 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link
gadzooks
― the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Sunday, 20 September 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
"And they know one hook is not enough, that you've got to grab the public instantly and continue to thrill them."
"And this formula is working."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CI-0E_jses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhyhP_5VfKM
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
Need to get back to the days of artistically pure dreck, IMO.
― hardcore dilettante, Sunday, 20 September 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link
http://www.maxlandiswrites.com/macklemore-white-eminem/
― maura, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
should I click, maura
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
HOT TURDAKES
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link
"should I click, maura"
don't do it.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
Is that the same Max Landis famous for 'scripts' for Ghostbusters III, Super Mario Bros. The Movie, and other fanart things that every kid of that generation made up w their friends on the bus to school?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
In the 2010s, the era of Macklemore, mainstream top 40 rap, with a few notable exceptions some of whom I’ve already mentioned, is getting…What’s the word…Stupider. Not in a bad way, but the rise of artists like Young Thug, a man who raps like a homeless man yelling, Pitbull, a fun raconteur whose every song seems to be a rearranged grouping of a limited number of catchphrases, and Tyga, whose songs about excess and irresponsibility are so simplistically worded that they border on accidental self parody, the art form is folding in on itself. Standing amongst this wreckage on the pop charts is a seemingly perpetually calm man with an interesting haircut rapping quietly to you about gay marriage, how nice it is to hang out with your friends, and the perks of owning a moped; he’s wearing your grandpa’s clothes, and he looks incredible.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
BLACK BAD WHITE GOOD
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 21 September 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
finally a stoic rapper in neat clothes and an interesting haircut, enjoying camaraderie and owning novel modes of transportation
― da croupier, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link
Pitbull, a fun raconteur
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link
Young Thug, a man who raps like a homeless man yelling
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link
Macklemore IS happy, he’s stylish, he’s upbeat and occasionally is going to fuck a fat girl.
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:03 (eight years ago) link
well he does ride mopeds
― balls, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/181357.gif
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link
matos on the case...
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/john-seabrooks-pop-music-treatise-the-song-machine-is-h-1736113168
― scott seward, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
we were talking about some seabrook thing here, weren't we?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
Good candidate for it, yup.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Ted Gioia is back, you guys:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/11/is-artisanal-music-the-next-new-thing.html
― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link
this is it
this is the nopegularity
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
wowwwwwwwww "artisanal music" I can't believe someone actually went there lol
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link
I am offended on so many levels.
― austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link
"But check out Ms. Lauryn Hill channeling Nina Simone on her latest album. "
wut
― based grandpa (noz), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 01:59 (eight years ago) link