dr john is on some sonny & cher records, think that's kinda the backstory to how gris gris got made. lol at "walls with sound"
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
feels like i have a better handle on the ~sound~ of the LA Mafia as opposed to the Wrecking Crew. I would guess that the Wrecking Crew were on a greater quantity of classic records though. Or at least had the better good/crap ratio.
― brimstead, Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, the Wrecking Crew didn't have a particularly distinctive/identifiable sound (though a handful of its musicians did, at times), which was the point.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
Interesting very unofficial 4CD Wrecking Crew compilation here.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
Recommended. Had it a few months and listening to it right now
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
think that's kinda the backstory to how gris gris got made.
right - wasn't Gris Gris recorded in LA? I want to say it was done during downtime between those sonny and cher sessions but I don't have his bio to hand
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link
xpost Nothing from Nesmith's "The Wichita Train Whistle Sings"?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
xp - yeah, from the liners: In fact Gris-Gris was recorded surreptitiously, but not in some New Orleans house of sin. It was laid down in the famed Gold Star Studios in Los Angeles, where Phil Spector had cut many of his classics. It might have never come to pass at all had Dr. John and his co-conspirators not managed to wrangle some free studio time that had been originally earmarked for Sonny & Cher sessions.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
kinda explains the nusto reverb on that record
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link
nutso even
yeah! makes sense, but it's gotta be one of the weirdest records to ever be recorded there.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
It's worth noting that, just like Dr. John, the most prominent players on that record were New Orleans natives who'd relocated to L.A. for studio work.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Friday, 18 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
me in high school / early 20s would have voted Wrecking Crew easy but somewhere in my mid-twenties I really developed a taste for that slick LA sound...something about how these dudes sound like they really wanna showboat but always (usually) rein it in just enough
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 September 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link
which crew will win?????
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
xp I think that's the mark of a quality session pro; the ability to find that balance. I said before that the sound of the wrecking crew was hard to identify.. Thinking about it, I don't think I could necessarily distinguish the mafia from their 70s sessioneer peers (although I suspect they wrote the book w/r/t that sound).
I had another totally brilliant thing to say but I lost it
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:27 (eight years ago) link
don't think I'd ever seen this before - in-studio footage of Lee Hazlewood recording with the Wrecking Crew including James Burton and Hal Blainehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDW2K4zxkXw
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
mellow mafia was basically just Danny Kortchmar, Craig Doerge, Leland Sklar, and Russ Kunkel, right? that's what wiki tells me, with a little bit of david lindley and waddy wachtel sprinkled in there.
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link
Not sure about the others, but Russ Kunkel played on “(Listen To The) Flower People” and was the drummer in that scene.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 5 September 2021 12:09 (two years ago) link
Where do Graydon, hey, and dacosta fit in ?
― calstars, Sunday, 5 September 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
There's a great scene in the Hired Gun doc where Graydon and one of the Toto guys breaks down Graydon's guitar solo for Steely Dan's "Peg". My big takeaway was that one of the guys (the Toto guy, I think) copped to being so anally repressive that they couldn't take a shit without first removing all their clothes.
― henry s, Sunday, 5 September 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link
That was Graydon, iirc, with Lukather. And I think the story was about them whipping up a hit for ... George Benson? Which is super funny, having Lukather, one of the most talented guitarists, playing piano for Graydon, one of the most talented guitarists, writing a song for Benson, one of the most talented guitarists.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 September 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link
Kortchmar & Co. AKA The Section:https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-section-knights-of-soft-rock-233728/Fave thing I remember from this: Carole King's junkie caveman hubbie (def post-Goffin) punching out DK, who had just come off stage and gotten too much applause or sump'n.
Also-- much more recently, they had their own record & tour:https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/immediate-family-session-veterans-cruel-twist-1012555/
― dow, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link
Oh yeah, and they got back with Carole and James---I wrote this preview when they played Columbus OH, in 2010:Carole King & James TaylorCarole King & James Taylor performed at L.A.'s formidably hipTroubadour club in 1969, when veteran songwriter King as was new tothe spotlight as Taylor. They returned in 2007 with the Section, thebacking band that helped define 70s soft rock. This warmly adeptconcert, documented on Live At The Troubadour, inspired Tayor & King'scurrent tour with the Section and Cleveland's Arnold McCuller, whosevoice has accompanied Taylor's for thirty years.05/30 @ The Schottenstein Center, 555 Arena Dr.7:30 p.m.
― dow, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
Trying to remember the name of the unreleased project some of these guys did with Billy Cowsill.
― What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link
Bridey Murphy. All the performing Cowsill brothers were involved, apparently, but only Billy ate the tape.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh2KTuHuAxo
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 September 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
walls with soundlooololols
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Monday, 20 September 2021 00:14 (two years ago) link
also RIP Shakey (jks jks jk ;)come back to ilm imo
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Monday, 20 September 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
Feeling the urge to spam the board with another story about Steve Lukather’s guitar teacher Jimmy Wyble, especially since I ran into another one of student’s this weekend. Will just link this website I don’t think I’ve linked before: https://rjacobson.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/irec-and-miss-jimmy-wyble/
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 September 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link
I’ve heard more than one story about some ambitious guitarist in their early years calling up some famous guitar name like Barney Kessel for lessons and the response being: “I don’t teach. Call Jimmy!” *click* *dialtone*
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 September 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link
Update! The xpost Section, who've got their own albums to do as The Immediate Family, are ba-a-ack---and so are Carole and James! (good timing for her, after "Natural Women" so striking in Respect : now I enjoy it even more than the Aretha biopic's title song):THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERSDANNY KORCHMAR, RUSS KUNKEL, LELAND SKLARTO BE FEATURED IN THE UPCOMING DOCUMENTARY“CAROLE KING & JAMES TAYLOR: JUST CALL OUT MY NAME”TO PREMIERE ON CNN AND HBO MAX IN LATE 2021 THE BAND MEMBERS WILL ALSO BE PERFORMING WITH CAROLE KING AT THE ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY’S 2021 TOUR KICKS OFF ON NOVEMBER 3 IN SUPPORT OF THEIR NEW SELF-TITLED ALBUM October 26, 2021 -- Supergroup The Immediate Family have a full schedule this Fall/Winter with bandmates Danny Kortchmar, Russ Kunkel and Leland Sklar’s participation in the documentary Carole King & James Taylor: Just Call Out My Name, premiering on CNN and HBO Max and also performing with Carole King at her induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ceremony on October 30. The band then heads out on their national tour in support of their new album The Immediate Family released on Quarto Valley Records. Prior to forming The Immediate Family, Kortchmar, Kunkel and Sklar have worked together since the early '70s as the legendary ensemble “The Section” backing up James Taylor and Carole King on The Troubadour Reunion Tour as well as appearing on Taylor and King’s various albums. The Immediate Family which also includes Waddy Wachtel and Steve Postell, will be embarking on their national tour on November 3. Some of the stops include San Juan Capistrano, CA (The Coach House), Agoura Hills, CA (The Canyon Club), and New York City (The Society of Ethical Culture). The band has just released their latest album, The Immediate Family, which debuted at #6 on Billboard’s Blues chart and features the single “Fair Warning.” Complete list of tour dates below. For more information on The Immediate Family and to explore their new merch store, visit: www.immediatefamilyband. 2021/2022 Tour November 3 - San Juan Capistrano, CA @ The Coach House November 6 - Santa Barbara, CA @ Lobero Theatre November 7 - Agoura Hills, CA @ Canyon Club November 14 - South Windsor, CT @ Clinic & Concert November 16 - Norwalk, CT @ Wall Street Theatre November 17 - Yarmouth, MA @ The Music Room November 18 - Derry, NH @ Tupelo Music Hall November 20 - New York, NY @ Concert Hall at NY Society for Ethical CultureNovember 21 - Ardmore, PA @ Ardmore Music Hall February 14-18 - The Rock Legends Cruise IX February 19 - Boca Raton, FL @ The Funky Biscuit February 20 - Hallandale Beach, FL @ Sport of Kings Theatre at Gulfstream Park & CasinoBe there or be---not square? No, I wanna go the Society For Ethical Culture, and know I need it.
― dow, Thursday, 28 October 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link
This interview with Danny Kortchmar I watched earlier this summer I thought was interesting and had alot of background on many classic records. If you have seen that one session musician documentary and the Billy Joel guys barking on getting fired, there is a bit later on in that with on how that gone down from a different angle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ngEhoa9fJU
― earlnash, Thursday, 28 October 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=267362992039629
― Goofy the Grifter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 December 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link
Concerning the mystery of who played drums on “These Boots.”
― Goofy the Grifter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 December 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link