what are barack obama's flaws?

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serious question

Alex in SF, Saturday, 27 September 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Now in terms of the administrations or how I would approach the presidency, I don't think I'd restrict myself to three people. There are people like Sam Nunn, a Democrat, or Dick Lugar, a Republican, who I'd listen to on foreign policy. On domestic policy, I've got friends ranging from Ted Kennedy to Tom Coburn, who don't necessarily agree on a lot of things, but who both have a sincere desire to see this country improve.

Tom -- or John mentioned me being wildly liberal. Mostly that's just me opposing George Bush's wrong headed policies since I've been in Congress but I think it is that it is also important to recognize I work with Tom Coburn, the most conservative, one of the most conservative Republicans who John already mentioned to set up what we call a Google for government saying we'll list every dollar of federal spending to make sure that the taxpayer can take a look and see who, in fact, is promoting some of these spending projects that John's been railing about.

regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ #1 from the saddleback forum, #2 from yesterday BTW

regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

you're positing these as flaws?

akm, Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Listening to people with alternative viewpoints is a flaw? xp

12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Being friends (or pretending to be) with Tom "LESBIANS IN OUR SCHOOLS" Coburn is a black mark in my book. Fuck that Okie asshole.

sad man in him room (milo z), Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

As a congressman in 1997, Coburn protested NBC's plan to air the R-rated Academy Award-winning Holocaust drama Schindler's List during prime time. Coburn stated that, in airing the movie without editing it for television, TV had been taken "to an all-time low, with full-frontal nudity, violence and profanity." He also said the TV broadcast should outrage parents and decent-minded individuals everywhere. Coburn described the airing of Schindler's List on television as "...irresponsible sexual behavior...I cringe when I realize that there were children all across this nation watching this program."

and what, Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

more like tom COCKBURN

velko, Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, calling an airing of schindler's list "irresponsible sexual behaviour" is so amazingly fucked up

s1ocki, Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean whatever you think of that movie. that is fuuuuucked.

s1ocki, Saturday, 27 September 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

daria palin!

i'm sure that obama is total best buddies with tom coburn, one of the senate's leading intellectuals

gabbneb, Saturday, 27 September 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

just like hillary is actually bffs with lindsey graham and don nickles (rip)

gabbneb, Saturday, 27 September 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

has anyone said that he's black?

johnny crunch, Saturday, 27 September 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought it!

cankles, Saturday, 27 September 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I understand the gag factor in seeing an embrace of someone with detestable views, but being able to work with someone is not the same as taking BFF photobooth I ENDORSE YR VIEWS BROSEF pics with them.

12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 September 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

he shouts out coburn waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much IMHO. so unnecessary

FWIW i do more work to help get obama elected than anyone else on this board

regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Sunday, 28 September 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

So that thing McCain mentioned during the debate about Obama requesting $932 million in pork is more or less accurate, right? Admittedly it's not something I care about that much compared to the bigger issues, but it would count as a flaw, and as far as I can determine it seems to be true.

i fuck mathematics, Sunday, 28 September 2008 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link

my guess (i have not researched the details re: obama) is that a fair amount of what GOP usually term "pork" would be funding for projects in the state/district that would benefit the public

that is part of his job imho. i got plenty of things to criticize about obama but this is not one that troubles me unless there is some real cronyism stuff in there.

regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Sunday, 28 September 2008 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah I wish he would actually defend some of the earmarks instead of saying that the system is "broken" since it's kind of giving the point to McCain, and not requesting any earmarks for the next year isn't going to do great things for Illinois. If he was just like, "hey here's all the useful stuff I did with my earmark money, I was working for my constituents, fuk u John" that'd be cool.

clotpoll, Sunday, 28 September 2008 06:19 (fifteen years ago) link

FWIW i do more work to help get obama elected than anyone else on this board

― regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:00 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

A remarkable assumption.

12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 08:21 (fifteen years ago) link

FWIW I don't think anyone on this thread was attacking your motivations for criticism (nb: on this thread, other bs attacks on your motivations notwithstanding). Your point is well taken.

12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 September 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link

lol daria do u have a dick if so plz tell us how much bigger it is than the dicks of everyone else on this board

you have been yellow carded by an actual referee (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 September 2008 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link

he shouts out coburn waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much IMHO. so unnecessary

FWIW i do more work to help get obama elected than anyone else on this board

― regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1. isnt he alwsy 'shouting out' to coburn in response to bullshit 'ties' to an asshole like ayers?

2. orly

deej, Sunday, 28 September 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i got it guys i think daria is actually joe biden

you have been yellow carded by an actual referee (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 September 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I took that to mean D. is working at an office or in some other GOTV capacity (much like Ethan).

jane hussein lane (suzy), Sunday, 28 September 2008 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link

or is sara palin

gabbneb, Sunday, 28 September 2008 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i assumed campaign work, but then i thought maybe she just knows more people who are "uncomfortable with" Obama than the rest of us

i might do Camp Obama, but I'm probably a little too Federal court for door-to-door; should do voter protection if I'm able to

gabbneb, Sunday, 28 September 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama's biggest flaw is that he doesn't have a tic which would make him suitable for a really good "SNL" evisceration.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

well, it does. there are things that are true and things that are false, at the end of the day.

regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

ha

Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

jeez i haven't even remembered to keep up with rolling ringtone maybe i should see you all over there on a different subject

regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I remember hearing Obama use the word "cockamamie" at least once. Which is just, I mean, come on... it's just a foolish word.
That said, my Grandma occasionally employed the phrase "Holy Jupiter!" with notable success, so I could be wrong here.

Chelvis, Monday, 29 September 2008 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krisken/2862353537/

and what, Monday, 29 September 2008 06:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Now would you prefer that or the Public Enemy logo on there?

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Monday, 29 September 2008 06:45 (fifteen years ago) link

his support for ethanol?

jermainetwo, Monday, 29 September 2008 07:29 (fifteen years ago) link

serious question

YESSSSSS

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-lucky-we-are.html

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 September 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

if you hate jim lehrer, you hate america

Mr. Que, Monday, 29 September 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

true

gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

MCCAIN: (whispering) I'm taking you out, gook boy.

OBAMA: (whispering) Step up, cracka.

This is making me nostalgic for high school satire columns.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Monday, 29 September 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

what's wrong with cockamamie?

Maria :D, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Dennis Perrin's just crying out for a hug isn't he?

Alex in SF, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

you actually read it?

gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Good lord no.

Alex in SF, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

oh dear.
jim lehrer did a pretty good job imho. he forgot to ask them a stupid question about professional sports though

regular guy, scranton, pennsylvania (daria-g), Monday, 29 September 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

xp: he won't let the close-minded hug him.

Lehrer neeeds to be put down in the barn.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

classy^^^

Mr. Que, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Behind the barn, please. Or we'll never get the stains out.

Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Monday, 29 September 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

xp: he won't let the close-minded hug him.

Lehrer neeeds to be put down in the barn.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, September 29, 2008 1:22 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are you 15??

and what, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

not nearly no matter where you put the tape measure

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 September 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

move thread to I Love TMI plz

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Monday, 29 September 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link


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