Best Metal Gear poll

many xposts --

i definitely get why ppl think it's "missing" sthg vs the old games. I definitely think so (and i may be the resident ilx mgs rockist?). what i loved abt those games is exactly the stuff that a) everyone else hated and b) i hate when other games try to do -- that stuff that's kinda considered pretty anti-game now (hyper-authored content, cutscenes, codecs, etc) because it was all so appealing and subversive and WEIRD.

i think i probably said this upthread a few times, but MGS4 only gets BETTER with age. the opening of that game, you're WATCHING TV (which feels like a hilarious self-zing by hideo) and there's a bunch of fake tv shows and you can flip through the channels (which i don't think i knew the first time I played). there's a fucking bizarre interview with david hayter, playing david hayter but in an alternate universe where he wears an eyepatch and is a movie star or something... the entire thing is very surreal and threatening. and a creepy game show, also super threatening and surreal. that game is a series of moments that are at varying degrees of "playable" and that's kind of ok. and they all feel so LAVISH. (which is probably why the game cost so much to produce). the microwave scene. the 4-part final battle referencing the 4 games. the rex vs ray battle which must have cost SO MUCH MONEY to develop and lasts all of 5 minutes. this kind of game will NEVER BE MADE AGAIN.

i'm super happy i get to play MGSV. it's a great game in its own right. but it doesn't really "feel" like an mgs game, despite a bunch of similarities (snake, ocelot, miller, oversexualized murder-girls, exclamation points over people's heads, etc.). It feels like an mgs-themed modern game. which is fine! but yeah the mission 25ish game twist thing, while cool, doesn't exactly reach the weirdo incredible surreal heights of the previous games -- "you like castlevania, don't you?" / "check the back of the cd case for the frequency!" / FISSION MAILED / "I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-kiri Rock. I need scissors! 61!" / etc. (really MGS3 took a huge step back on this front which may be why it's my least favourite in the numbered series.)

goddamn it i need to stop talking about metal gear, i just wrote 3 dumb paragraphs about crazy colonel and fake david hayter interviews

that's a great description of mgs4, gona dive into that next.

xpost, im only on the first mission so don't have the option to send people back to base yet. til then im gona carry on stabbing throats

Are you guys playing on console or Pc?

This is the first one in the series to break the Play sta exclusivity right?

Certainly makes a case to buy a ps4

playing on PS3 and it is magnificent on my 26" screen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DRe3LCCbOA

i think watching videos of this game brings me more delight than playing it ever could.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYM-vPKyxfA

carboard boxes really are the best way to travel in this game

i also enjoy running around mother base and knocking my soldiers over in my cardboard box sledge. makes me lol every time they get up and say 'thank you boss!'

Is it sacrilege to call this game a bit samey? I'm only 7% through so maybe it's gonna switch up a little soon.. I mean it is fun as hell - each 3-4 man outpost is a little stealth concerto, a set piece where no matter how many times you've sussed it out, feels a little different each time. But now that I've got the more powerful tranq gun I just zap dudes until one guy's left alone, I interrogate him and that's that. The bigger bases are awesome and challenging but there aren't enough missions like the two tanks mission, where you are like "where is this all going to lead??" 95% of the time I know exactly where it's going to lead: to a heavily guarded set of outbuildings and a prisoner who needs rescuing.

There is only one prisoner / there is only one guard.

They are your senses of fun and efficiency.

Yeah it is a bit samey. When I got to the mission where I had to destroy the tanks I couldn't wait to see what else the game was going to throw at me. Cos in Peace Walker there are lots of side missions where you are, say, charged with destroying 20 tanks in a convoy, and it was a huge and welcome break from routine. Sadly there don't seem to be any more missions like that in TPP.

I did just get to the part where you have to replay missions "Subsistence" style, which means no reflex mode, no buddies, and no weapons/equipment. Not even magazines. You have to find it all on-site, OSP, just like the first MGS. It's like playing an entirely new game. Spent an hour or two trying to complete the first such mission yesterday and it was insanely intense.

i "beat" the demo and once i got past the first difficulty curve of the controls, it became an endless loop of fun.
the story is unwatchable and not justifiable in any way
buying this today i think

http://ec0c5a7f741a6f3bff65-dd07187202f57fa404a8f047da2bcff5.r85.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/D2fJL-S9Lgt1.878x0.Z-Z96KYq.jpg

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-05-16-the-koj-delusion
should be arriving today

Just found Kaz's hamburger tapes. Ah, this is what the game has been missing. Pax Hamburgana

It was further suggested that a game featuring an antagonist called 'Skullface' shouldn't deal with such taboos (which, as an argument, is a non-starter).

is it though

http://i.imgur.com/Q03J5Z0.png

Finally beat this last night (at least the 2nd "Truth" ending), any interest in a spoiler thread to discuss?

Not yet i'm only on like 11%

I found Quiet (at least I think it was she) in some old ruins, and I'm pretty sure I got off a couple of bullseyes on her but then she just vanished and now I'm all alone. Have I blown this??

However in other news I never thought I'd be so happy to find a factory in a video game. At last, a setting that's not random little parched outbuildings on the side of a hill!! Going over those roofs and ducking around corners and crawling under pipes was super fun :)

2%
i think i'm gonna have more fun with this if i relax with the completionist approach. i've redone the first mission five times now trying to do it perfect.

I'm around 45%, finished "chapter 1", hit a bit of a wall when it started requiring me to do Subsistence/Extreme missions to continue. Down for a spoilers thread but I might wanna get further than this before I dip my toe in those waters!

xpost forks yeah just roll through. you can go back and S-rank them later.

You know, ILG Players Club would be a good place for those spoilery convos

You should be fine w Quiet, you can always go back and replay the mission and recruit her.

I only beat the game cos I wanted to read some reviews and felt like I was dodging spoilers left and right. Now I can relax and take my time w these dozens of side ops and main missions I still have left to do. Plus I think there is at least one side storyline ending I have left. For an 'unfinished' game there sure is a lot of stuff to do and see. Probably be playing this well into next year.

Btw you can skip the subsistence/extreme missions entirely if you want to do side ops instead, every 3 it will automatically trigger cutscenes or add new missions to the list. I've saved them all for post-game.

Metal Gear V - The Phantom Pain - Spoilers Ahead

Just got the Quiet ending. Wow. Mission 45 is incredible.

This is like a classic western movie or something. It does things you can only do in video games. I like the symbolic commentary on the ending of Kojima's Metal Gear. Quiet's arc is the best of any character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q401R0JtuFw

hey Adam when I met with the sniper who I thought was quiet and failed to get/extract her, it wasn't during a mission it was on the way to the factory side-op. so I can't redo the mission. I mean I'm not stressing too bad, I assume the game will hook me up again somehow. Right?

Not sure, I met her in Mission 11 but I think as long as you go to the Aabe Shifap Ruins you will run into her.

i'm sure that there's no way to miss her? one or two of the huge plot points depend on her existing

So uh I finally bought Revengeance, which really isn't a Metal Gear game, but I haven't played much yet. From what I can tell, it's one of those games that lets you get away with knowing nothing at the beginning since I've passed a couple areas and my combo percentage is a solid zero. Kind of fun, though. I miss Bushido Blade so maybe this will help me get my fix.

i just couldn't get to grips with the parry system in revengeance for some reason - i really wanted to like it but i got stuck on a boss battle which required me to parry :(

Yeah id didn't learn parry until 3/4 into the game.

I have most definitely not mastered parrying yet

on one hand, it's cool to be able to slowly master things

on the other hand, nothing will ever recreate the moment I played Bushido Blade for the first time and an enemy killed me two seconds in with one hit and I thought I had purchased an elaborate prank

BUSHIDO BLADE!

in my top 5 all time

so good, seems to have the least frills and minimal everything but then you realize the combat is completely ridiculous

the three stances!!

just run forward and spam X

http://gfycat.com/DimpledDeadlyAmericanbulldog

This is great fun but i am TERRIBLE at it. basically i play each episode for two hours just figuring out what the hell is going on, quit mission and then restart with a gameplan

don't be skurrt

on the other hand, sometimes be really skurrt

reflex mode is your friend

same for attracting attention

you need to draw these guys away from their buddies

every time one of them is like "i'm going to investigate" i'm like hey guy, haven't you ever seen a horror movie?

I'm on my 2nd playthrough of MGSV and it just keeps getting better. Knowing how the story finishes, it's almost a new game. This is Kojima's auteur masterwork imo. There is a lot of symbolism and art film style stuff throughout. It's brilliant. It talks about the player's role in the game. It talks about Kojima's debt to Metal Gear and the players. His last game he was forced to make due to death threats. The Quiet story is the best in Metal Gear history. Felt like a samurai movie crossed w a classic western or something, very sad, very optimistic, very symbolic. Game is a love-hate anime art film tribute to the violence of western culture.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/718564-metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/72466130

I finally played the factory mission where you try to get, what's his name? The scientist? Emmerich? And OK that was awesome. Proper scripting and tough as shit. C4 is so funnnnnn

i started reading that faq and i think it's spoilery? i'm gonna avoid reading about this game until i finish it, so likely 2017.