Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

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there are plenty of whistleblowers at various levels of government who we'd applaud for "not doing their jobs."

I don't see how this is relevant or analogous, really

like nazi germany or, closer to home, america during either of the red scares.

Similarly these were regimes/instances of the gov't acting in an explicitly illegal manner, the rule of law had gone out the window (again, not the case here, much as Davis' supporters would suggest otherwise. There has been no coup, no agency acting beyond its legal bounds)

and I didn't say it was her unwillingness to do her job that makes her wrong, it's her insistence that it is simultaneously her right to HAVE that job AND not do it.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

but the Nuremberg Laws were, ah, the law!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

are we really gonna get into an argument about whether the Nazi regime was "legal" cuz um

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

since the fucks at the supreme court gave these morons an inch with the hobby lobby decision

When did it become a sacred right never to be required by one's employer to do anything that conflicts with one's conscience? Because, if that's true, then -whoopee- the gravy train has pulled into the station and there's room on board for everyone!

― Aimless, Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:11 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 September 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link

are we really gonna get into an argument about whether the Nazi regime was "legal" cuz um

― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:59 PM

No, because Chris Ciccone can explain it better.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 September 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link

Kim Davis basically now attempting to vanish in a puff of smoke after realizing a week later she didn't actually win. lol

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 14 September 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

She staunchly asserted that marriage licenses not signed off by her personally are invalid, but if someone wanted to test that assertion in court, who would have standing to challenge the validity of the licenses?

Aimless, Monday, 14 September 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

Jesus

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 September 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

her and her lawyers assert that. the judge in question and attorney general have politely said that claim is horseshit.

but essentially what it boils down is, her deputies are now issuing marriage certificates and they don't have her name on it. Isn't that what she wanted? Naw, she wanted no licenses going out at all, and just used the whole "oh my dear personal freedoms" as the excuse.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 14 September 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

lol

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 14 September 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

is someone going to explain the separation of church and state to them

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, September 1, 2015 7:01 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey, if you ignore decades of Supreme Court case law, or the secondary intent of the Establishment clause, you can say things like "omg the separation of church and state doesn't even appear in the Constitution" and fool yourself for most of your lifetime.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 21 September 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

Harris Wofford, eh?

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 April 2016 12:00 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/first-amendment-defense-act-would-be-devastating-lgbtq-americans-n698416?cid=sm_fb

FADA would prohibit the federal government from taking "discriminatory action" against any business or person that discriminates against LGBTQ people. The act distinctly aims to protect the right of all entities to refuse service to LGBTQ people based on two sets of beliefs: "(1) marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, or (2) sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage."

Ironically, the language of the bill positions the right to discriminate against one class of Americans as a "first amendment" right, and bans the government from taking any form of action to curb such discrimination—including withholding federal funds from institutions that discriminate. FADA allows individuals and businesses to sue the federal government for interfering in their right to discriminate against LGBTQ people and would mandate the Attorney General defend the businesses.

j., Friday, 23 December 2016 02:51 (seven years ago) link

still taking applications btw

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 December 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

tough call, i don't get screeners anymore...

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 December 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has declined to step into a case over a Texas high court ruling that says gay spouses may not be entitled to government-subsidized workplace benefits.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GsyAoWXScA

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 June 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link

Four months without dick -- well.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 June 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link

i'd need to see a financial portfolio

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

dark times

all cats are beautiful (silby), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link


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