Selena Gomez is Good For You

ok i thought about it a little more, and maybe I should be more "sex positive" and think that if she's just playing at jailbait with daddy issues and she's actually an adult woman, then more power to her, and we understand it as "play" rather than read it literally. But the literal read, of "I am doing this teen jailbait schtick and singing about my daddy issues with a 6th grade vocabulary," sorry that shit grosses me out. There is too much of it in real life.

I don't get where the pedophilia comes in, she's 23

She looks like she's a teenager and her voice is very young sounding.

Ten years from now, we are going to look back at songs like "Good for You" and not only be amazed at how many outstanding pop songs with amazing productions were released during this era – but also how many were ruined (or nearly ruined) by terrible raps during the middle-eight.

sure ok but accusing someone of "jailbait with daddy issues" is loaded as fuck and almost certainly more loaded than the song

I'm not saying that Selena Gomez, the real person, is that, but the character that she is playing in the song comes across that way to me.

Can't a grown woman express affection for her father through song?

just wanna look freud for you

anyway I think this is a more pressing update than the "update" upthread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naKhF6G36rM

i don't even know which lyrics are specifically about daddy issues? i mean the way she sings it, it's not a healthy relationship and her bf has power over her, is maybe even controlling, but...that's why it's primarily a sad song, right?

(it's really grown on me even though it is lana cosplay; amusing that selena's idea of "doing lana" is to mumble and slur so that whatever the lyrics are come out mostly incomprehensible)

(is there a hq mp3 of the asap-free version? didn't realise the (boring, missed opportunity) video was a solo versh. would appreciate it if so bc this is the most egregiously breaking-the-spell rap guest since ty on mila j's "my main")

(selena's awkward affectations actually serve the song well bc the entire thing communicates that constricted awkwardness of having dressed up to the nines and being very uncomfortable with it, so that every move is stilted and careful bc otherwise the sham will be revealed)

last parenthesis sums up the songs ambiguity perfectly!

also is just very relatable

i don't even know which lyrics are specifically about daddy issues? i mean the way she sings it, it's not a healthy relationship and her bf has power over her, is maybe even controlling, but...that's why it's primarily a sad song, right?

― lex pretend, Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:22 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because any expression of insecurity in a woman is almost always attributed to "daddy issues," and pop freud needs to be burned to the ground and its ashes shat on

copied the lyrics, and listened for verification, see below. see also wiki entry, link also below.

No fair reading of the song could possibly indicate daddy issues or pedo pandering. As i said a month ago above and as the esteemed Lex sez above, there can be little doubt that its intended to depict a fucked up relationship in which the protagonist has no agency but to appeal to her dominant partner. In no way can anyone seriously suggest that Selena gomez is saying "yes, girls of the world, be good little fuck puppets" or "my passive whispering reflects the proper, prone position women should have w/r/t you, men of the world." she's evoking shitty relationships that maybe she and certainly uncountable millions of individuals on Earth have had. It's a companion piece to "the heart wants what it wants"; in that tune, the protagonist has some shred of agency and awareness of how lousy it is, but now has surrendered in "good for you." how anyone could not conclude it's not unambiguously sad is beyond me: a five year old would hear the washed out minor chords and come to that conclusion.

the song is on z-100 in NYC all the live long day. I like it, but not as much as "Love you like a love song."

I'm on my 14 carats, I'm 14 carat
Doing it up like Midas, mhm
Now you say I got a touch, so good, so good
Make you never wanna leave, so don't, so don't

Gonna wear that dress you like, skin-tight , do my hair up real, real nice
And syncopate my skin to your heart beating

'Cause I just wanna look good for you, good for you, uh-huh
I just wanna look good for you, good for you, uh-huh
Let me show you how proud I am to be yours
Leave this dress a mess on the floor
And still look good for you, good for you, uh-huh

I'm on my marquise diamonds, I'm a marquise diamond
Could even make that Tiffany jealous, mhm
You say I give it to you hard, so bad, so bad
Make you never wanna leave, I won't, I won't

(pre-chorus and chorus repeat)

Trust me, I can take you there
Trust me, I can take you there
Trust me, I, trust me, I, trust me,, etc etc

(mood killing interlude followed by chorus and "trust me", then out)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_for_You_(song)

she's afraid he's going to leave her. which is sad :(

The newest single was written by Charli XCX and Selena is doing what most popstars do when they sing Sia songs, and imitating all of the writer's vocal tics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=naKhF6G36rM

to be fair it's not just sia and charli songs, it's all songs with demo tracks. sia and charli just maybe have more distinctive tics

When you have Sia or Charli singing on a demo it's kinda diff from it being like Randy Newman or someone, I guess

the chorus on this is almost indecipherable from charli tho lol

i like "good for you" -- it'st least catchier than anything lana has put out this year. lana would write better lyrics tho

i think "syncopate my skin to your heart beating" is a sharp line

yeah that is nice

agreed RE: Lana - i do love the lyrics though. that line is ace.

'syncopate' is an awfully big word for a sixth grader

still insist that the writer meant "synchronize"

my friend told me that he knows one of the guys who wrote this song the other night. i was excited :)

also i like the wiki entry and the depiction of Selena's involvement/take on the song

yea, the pedo/daddy issues reading of this song baffles me.
otm Veronica Moser and others.
I'm still stunned by how much her voice and singing carry with so little (words, melody).
the funny thing is at first her pronunciation of "good" seemed weird to me but now that I listen closely, it is very normal...

wow, that's a long wiki entry for such a recent and not that successful song !

while I agree with lex's/veronica moser's reading of the song, selena may disagree:

She also explained how she now tries to convey her feelings through her music. “Good For You” is about "the confidence of me turning into a young woman," she said.

http://www.ibtimes.com/selena-gomez-talks-about-her-new-song-good-you-why-tailor-swift-wants-her-get-cat-1978955

That's quoted out of context, and Selena doesn't have the last say abt song's theme, but seems relevant all the same

she wants to look good for us ;_;

yes, and she's comfortable with it too

oh it was actually quite successful. good for... her !

anyway, Selena doesn't seem to think of the song as depicting a fucked up relationship or constricted awkwardness:

There’s no love interest in the video, it’s all me. The reason why I wanted it to feel that way is because it’s about truly feeling good about yourself. I love the sensuality. It doesn’t try to hard. It’s not in everybody’s face. It’s like when you have that feeling with someone, when you just want to feel pretty and you want to feel good. Whatever it is, whether its in jeans and a t-shirt, or someone else’s shirt. Just something that makes you feel beautiful and sexy.

see, i love that! i love the honesty and innocence about it. it doesn't need to be *all* tragic. sometimes it's ok to want to feel pretty and good, even if it can be sad at the same time. v v easy to relate to.

the goid pronunciation was def the initial selling point of the song

"same old love" is pretty good

also, although I really dislike the rap break and prefer the sparse musical arrangements version, it's interesting that Rocky actually contributed to the production of the version of the track he's on.
I wonder if it's often the case or if most/all the rap breaks are simply added to the finished track.

My problem isn't that the rap break interrupts the flow – musically anyway. I think the key change there is great, actually, and the thing sounds fine.

It's that the lyrical imagery of her grinding on his "miniature John Hancock" is so nakedly crude it takes the listener right out of this trance she's put us in before.

Combined with the "ho ho watch me cleverly avoid swearing" flow, it's just another reminder of how cancerous these things really are right now.

regarding the "goïd", when you listen closely, it seems it's not due to her pronunciation but to the echo or something.
definitely one of the things that struck first !

there's another thing about the rap break it's the sounds she makes in the background... kinda creepy.
Like an old ghost or something !

YES. the only i truly hate about his verse is the john hancock line. otherwise i fully prefer the production on the callabo. it hits hard.

yeah it hits harder and sounds more like a hit but that's the reason why I prefer the more basic and naked version that leaves more room to her voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XFfWems2_A

<3 this

uh ohhhhhhhhhhh. what with this and the new Janet i think my friday night is MADE. can't wait

Pretty cool. It doesn't hit me instantly as hard as "good for you" but many hooks. The "hihihihiiiiiiihi" are fun !

still insist that the writer meant "synchronize"

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:48 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if your heartbeat is syncopated you should see a doctor

wow, that's a long wiki entry for such a recent and not that successful song !

― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, September 11, 2015 1:52 AM (3 weeks ago)

virtually all recent songs by pop artists with rabid fanbases (including random album tracks that i guess are "notable" b/c they were mentioned in two album reviews or something) have unbelievably long and overly detailed wiki entries

meanwhile ~90% of wiki entries for pre-wikipedia era songs are just "(song) is a song released by (artist) in (year). It reached #(position) on the charts. The End."

"Hands To Myself" better be a single soon.

i love this record so much

omg is there a full album? HANDS TO MYSELF what a title