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I don't think it questions the "staring at tits", it simply plays with the idea and does it in a different way, maybe.
I don't know, these sequences seemed sillier than sexy in my memory but I don't really remember the other games and haven't played this one (yet !).

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link

yessssssss

http://giant.gfycat.com/ApprehensiveGiantAllosaurus.gif

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

nice

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

i still have my plain old fulton

this is going to be like a 100+ hour game isn't it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

i'm only on mission 12 or something and i'm already like 24 hours in so yeah that seems entirely possible

(admittedly some of that runtime is leaving the console on while i'm waiting for a mother base expansion to be completed)

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

surely the phantom cigar would do the same thing?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

nah, unfortunately you have to wait out the development in real time - the phantom cigar doesn't work to speed that stuff up, presumably so you don't end up building everything within the first couple of hours

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

in the MGS series as a whole i'd say there's as much, possibly more, explicitly sexualized male leering? which is quite unusual for a video game

Not unusual in videogames at all really. Maybe more pronounced but I think that may have to do with cultural differences between Japan and the US. You won't play Call of Duty and run into a 10 minute cutscene about the horrors of nuclear proliferation or philosophical debates on the nature of war because of this cultural difference either.

As for the series as a whole, go back and play MGS and it is filled with James Bond-style flirting and fawning and objectifying. It's part of the style. It's also designed to be played primarily by teenagers sitting in their room with all the free time in the world rather than a mature married couple staying in for the evening.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

I mean the first MGS has a character named after Otaku, who are an entire class of shut-ins that favor that kind of stuff. Giant robots and giant tits. It's part of his audience.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

I'd say it's much more mature aside from the costume. The writing is way less pandering to a male only view immo (in my male opinion). In the first game Snake is hitting on women as soon as they meet and they are in turn incessantly receptive to his advances. In TPP Big Boss meets Quiet as a buddy by first having to best her in combat. You can't kill her in this combat. Actually I think the very first time you meet her she is wearing full clothes also but not sure that may be a storyline thing.

I want to say more but don't want to spoil anything. Suffice to say she is integral to the story and gameplay in far more than a sex object way.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

She's also apparently integral to wiping your save file based on what my friend said & what the daily updates said, y'all make sure you don't bring her as a buddy to either 'Mission 29' or 'Mission 42'.

ilg lookin out for ilg

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

I'm taking my sweet time just spent half an hour walking around the zoo watching animals grace amongst flowers.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

If you were gonna choose between this or The Witcher III?

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

This by miles. Witcher III seems cool but I don't really care for the story and the open world thing is much more locked in, this game really lets you goof off and go nuts. I remember the start of W3 was a pixel hunt in a room to advance some cutscene hence it really didn't start off on the right foot for me.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

i should prob play ground zero first tho' yes? excellent indicator of how this plays?

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

did you miss it when it was on ps plus?

yeah tho ground zeroes is a LITTLE different but it's mostly representative + the space is actually a little cooler (albeit way smaller) than what i've seen so far in TPP. highly recommend GZ.

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

no, it's on my hard drive. if it's basically the same it should tell me whether to buy this or not... so thanks!

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 September 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

GZ is amazing. Still the best level ever though I really hope there is some cool stuff awaiting in TPP.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 September 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link

FoxR 36 minutes ago
Islamistic bs
Why the hell you are fighting for mujahids in this game?
And why the ♥♥♥♥ everyone thinks its OK and never mention in reviews?
Last edited by FoxR; 36 minutes ago

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 September 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link

He should watch Rambo III.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 September 2015 04:04 (eight years ago) link

everyone should watch rambo iii

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 10 September 2015 08:30 (eight years ago) link

http://w.webms.org/m/QyBnMWyH.webm

hot doug stamper (||||||||), Friday, 11 September 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

um

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

nightmare-fuel

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 11 September 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

This...

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

Now I'll show you why they call me "Revolver."

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcyygfXIfzE

am0n, Friday, 11 September 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

i've had that happen to me!

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 11 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

woah I didn't realise the game reacts to your play style and adapts its difficulty accordingly

hot doug stamper (||||||||), Saturday, 12 September 2015 09:55 (eight years ago) link

so for example if it notices you're doing lots of headshots, guards will start being sent out with helmets. you can counteract this by sending out your own combat deployments to fuck up the CPU's supply of helmets which will reduce the number of helmeted guards during the next three or so missions

hot doug stamper (||||||||), Saturday, 12 September 2015 09:57 (eight years ago) link

maybe i'm not at that stage of the game yet, but i haven't come across how to send my dudes out on deployments

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 12 September 2015 10:00 (eight years ago) link

guys one of my soldiers is called 'spunky macaw'

bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 12 September 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link

God this game. Maybe not the best "Metal Gear" game -- which it doesn't need or want to be. It was missing voice actor David Hayter so it would be a contentious entry for fans for that alone. But for immersive storytelling gameplay it is incredible. I was just doing an important yet obscure sideop looking for a mission soldier from the Ground Zeroes campaign. I took along D-Dog for maximum detection and have customized him to have white fur, looking even more like GOT Dire Wolves. I was playing as an A++ black soldier named Tree Frog -- you do not have to go through the whole game as Big Boss. You can be other soldiers, male and female, complete with changed voice acting. Again with all the options. Some non-story spoilers if you haven't played these exact missions (side op 51 and a tank destroying one).

I set off down the road that cut through the area where we were supposed to look for the missing soldier and headed towards a guard post on the south end. D-Dog helped me detect all the enemies at the camp, and I pressed Y to pet him each time he barked his detection. I crawled up the side of a hill (they have fixed crawling for the most part meaning they have played through the game and fixed many areas you would think may be uncrawlable, making stealthy snakey crawly possible) and there were 8 guards right out of sight. I threw a decoy to the far end of the base and activated it. Out popped an inflatable clown punching bag in the shape of Big Boss, with a tiny speaker emitting a loop of "Kept you waiting, huh?". The guard closest to it turned around and shouted to 2 others that he found something and they all started walking towards it. I creeped up and held them up, one by one. Guard AI in this game is so well done and it puts all other open world games to shame. Anyways after interrogating and fultoning everyone I found the mission soldier was somewhere in the mountains. After slowly making my way up, I found him. His tag was red so apparently he was an enemy, and he was waiting for me, because he instantly ran up and threw me to the ground before running off across the mountain. It knocked me out so hard my eyelid was down over the screen and I had to physically toggle to get back up. After getting back up I saw he was running down the road I had been to earlier, so I started shooting him with a stun gun. It slowed up down a little but he would get up and run away again, this time back up the mountain.

I eventually caught him but it was a crazy experience, chasing this guy who had no guns but was fast and dangerous, running across the side of a mountain with a Dire Wolf trailing behind us. If I ever do this one again I will try sending D-Dog to deal with him!

After that I did some other missions and ended up infiltrating a huge base in the desert with Quiet. I had sent her there with orders to attack and cover me while I made the long journey on horseback. She was positioned on the very top of the main building, which was a huge bombed-out mansion with cracks in the walls and holes in the floor. After a long fight everyone at the base was knocked out and I was alone to explore for diamonds and stuff to help me build up Mother Base. I was making my way through the ruined mansion when I heard Hall & Oates "Maneater" coming from....somewhere. Was it around this corner? No. Or this one? No. I swing the camera around and try using stereo panning and doppler effects to locate the source of the sound. Then I hear Quiet start to hum. She hums whenever she detects and enemy, so I know that some reinforcements have shown up and I need to be more careful. I keep going up the winding staircase, checking each floor for a boombox, Quiet sniping anyone that approaches the base while I take on this all important mission.

It's amazing, all of these optional systems coming together to tell a really cool story. Playing the game feels very organic. Sometimes you can break the game but it is FLEXIBLE. TPP is rubber while all other open world games are plastic.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 September 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

The more I play it the more I like it as a Metal Gear game too. It feels like an HD update of MGS3 most of all. The story and cutscene stuff is amazing imo, it's just the stuff that was 10-minute powerpoint presentations in the older games are now cassettes you can listen to whenever you feel like it or not at all.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 September 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

Awesome description. Makes me want to read more accounts of the gameplay like this. Reminds me a bit of GtA in this way - you can play for a bit, have a unique experience, and tell it like a story the next day to your friends.

calstars, Saturday, 12 September 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

D-Dog is still the best though. I like sending him out wo any armor, it means he does not have a knife, and can "keep him busy" by distracting enemies for an advantageous amount of time. You can run up and thrown them on the ground or electrocute them with your robot hand.

It's one of many great gameplay additions. I have never seen a stealth or otherwise game with so many options for play.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 September 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

i've never used the hand. what should i do.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 12 September 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link

I don't know I just developed the electric one and you have to charge it up so I've never tried it. If you equip the shock one I think it allows for a clothesline/sucker punch that has a larger reach than the standard melee CQC and results in an instant stun.

Afghanistan has a very strong spaghetti western feel to it at times, the more cinematic parts. I think this is part of why they went for Troy Baker to do Ocelot as a cowboy. It's also Kojima's desire to do a GTA style open world game with classic American anti-heroes.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 September 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

My god I just tabbed back and ran across a tape of "Rebel Yell" just playing out of some boombox inside of a tent by the side of the road in 1984 Afghanistan while a bunch of Russian soldiers shooting at a Rambo.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 September 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

I can't believe people are complaining about having to replay missions. None of this happened the first time I did these.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 September 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

I had R&D develop a water gun that I had Support Team drop into the battlefield because I came upon a radio station and you can destroy electronics with squirt guns.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 September 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

i need that water gun so bad, i hate having to go loud to take out electronics.

typically what i do is place c4 at all the comm gear and anti air radar and shit and when i'm on my way out of the base (having silently achieved my objective) blow it all

adam, Saturday, 12 September 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

I have renamed diamond dogs 'CAMP BOY'. we have a pink-and-yellow winged balloon as our emblem.

bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 12 September 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

i changed my team's name right before a mission where i had to extract a child soldier from the battlefield, so the poor bastard had to get off the chopper onto a hot-pink mother base emblazoned with my new 'BOY SNATCHER' logo. kinda undercut the gravity of the situation tbh

bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 13 September 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

if u haven't had a shower in a while and lie down in the field, animals will come over and sniff you thinking ur dead

having showers temporarily buffs ur stats btw

hot doug stamper (||||||||), Sunday, 13 September 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

http://youtu.be/SkNaUiaGRxw

bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 13 September 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

been playing ground zeroes these past few days and this is totally the kind of game i've been waiting all my life for. like a splinter cell/stalker type game but slicker and better. story is a bit confusing as i don't know any of the backstory but that's no big deal.

i'm waiting for tpp to go cheaper but first i've bought the remastered for ps3 disc with:
- mgs2 sons of liberty
- mgs3 snake eater
- mgs peacewalker
and ive got revengeance for the pc.

which is best to play next? are any worth skipping?

NI, Monday, 14 September 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

If you've never played any of them I would go chronologically. Have you played MGS1?

TPP is really very different from the others, I would go so far as to say if you really like Ground Zeroes you may be better off going straight into it for the same tight gameplay and returning to the series later to explore the story.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 September 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link

the two tanks mission is fuckin hard.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link


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