Let's discuss Rick Ross' "Teflon Don"

Yeah this is all time for me, too. One of those rare records where the monster singles are perfectly balanced with the album cuts

What's the consensus on dude's post-peak music, Mastermind / Black Market? I dig the beats on Black Market a lot, no "B.M.F."-like material but I honestly don't care about that sound. Also it's the only reason I know Scott Storch and JR Rotem still exist, I forgot that Rotem in particular is probably the hackiest producer ever but the Mariah Carey remake is good

also is dude Nas's favorite new-school rapper or something (relatively-speaking,) he seems to collaborate with him a decent amount

He's the only current rapper I listen to. I think Mastermind is great, don't love Black Dollar/Black Market as much but they're solid albums.

Mastermind had a couple tracks that are among my favorite songs of the last few years.

War Ready
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax9YLJ8Wt5Q

Blk & Wht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI86g6eQOfs

I like "War Ready" but find the end of it kinda unnerving. As far as Black Dollar/Market, not sure why "Money Dance" is >7 minutes but it's cool cuz that's a great vibe-out beat

Still don't care about dude's rapping with a couple exceptions I can think of ("Foreclosures,") but it doesn't get in the way for me, idk how much of it is just thinking dude doesn't have the greatest voice for rap -- I definitely prefer Nas's verse on "One of Us" for instance but it's not like they're flowing all that different.

I didn't even realize him & Jeezy dropped albums at the end of last year for a bit

hard to listen to any of his later stuff imo

nothing off Mastermind appeals?

it was interesting while it was on

I haven't heard this album in years but I suspect I'll still love it.

teflon don is classic. pretty much everything around this era was

I can't imagine reaching for any Rick Ross album other than Teflon Don or Rich Forever, but Mastermind was interesting because, along with all of Ross's Harry Fraud and Nas collabs, it revealed what a traditionalist the guy is. Made it really easy to imagine a scenario where he spends the rest of his career just playing to the "real rap" crowd, releasing solid but unexciting LPs that never change much kinda like Wu-Tang and Boot Camp and all those old New York types do.

Kinda a funny turn for a guy who began his career so reviled by traditionalists.

i'd listen to deeper than rap too.

Albert Anastasia

Even the triple c’s has a couple joints

nicki minaj is not a thing i am meant to put in my mouth

― lex pretend, Friday, October 14, 2011 7:54 PM bookmarkflaglink

10 years old today

still awesome btw

started sellin dope, was 2 legit 2 quit

strange choice to put "bmf" and "mc hammer" at the back end of the album. maybe stacking it with "i'm not a star" at the beginning would've been tough peak to descend from

this album is a window back into better days so I spin it a lot

i'm gonna JFK
like JFK
and my JFK
is a J... EFF KAYYYYYY

― I think I'm Princess Peach... King Koopa (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 8:23 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I STILL hear this in my head when I think of this song almost 13 years later, lmao.

still love this album and inexplicably been bumping it again the last few weeks. feels a little weird blasting BMF in my car in fuckin' 2023 with the world going to hell and falling apart but y'know, whadya gonna do

Sorry to butt in but since this is at the top now, can anyone kindly direct me to the current hip hop thread? I mostly want to work though my cognitive dissonance over some Confederate flag crap Westside Gunn posted — I just should probably just let it go right. This is old news to most hip hop heads.

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