Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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I’m not opposed to reading memoirs written by LGBTQ individuals or stories containing suicide. I’m not even opposed to reading Freud, Marx or Darwin.

even?????

j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

lol

flopson, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

seems a lil different to treat a book (discussion) as a potential detriment to mental health than as a poison that will sap your faith

goole, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

(or is it?!?!)

goole, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

how do these people even get into college, i don't understand

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

managed to not soak a FAFSA form in blood or feces

goole, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link

i mean that kid actually seems really smart, no doubt. but it seems there should be a question on the common app like, "if assigned a text or project whose content conflicts with your previously-held beliefs, will you engage with it?"

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

kid is apparently going to study public health in sub-saharan africa. can't wait to read his paper: "Abstinence for Africa"

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

a person for whom a classic national geographic would actually seem pornographic

j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Luckily there is no sex nor violence in the Bible, so his story checks out.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

How does a story like this end up on the Washington Post? Someone doesn't feel like doing his homework and becomes a hero.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

Also when is he planning on gouging out his right eye?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

He has admitted not being able to view these images without it compromising him, it's the entire crux of the piece. If he believes so strongly in the words of the Bible he should following the very words he is quoting. What an idiot.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

they mean comics with lesbian oral sex in them, but they didn't mean gouging gouging

j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

i soaked my fafsa in blood and feces both and they still let me in college

rushomancy, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

There's still a curmudgeonly part of me that's like "really, a graphic novel as required college reading?"

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link

I mean there are good ones, I just haven't seen many that are challenging enough to benefit from reading in a college course I guess.

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link

I've taught Fun Home before--it's really a rich text, and densely allusive (although of course there are more interesting things to do critically than unpacking allusions). We're all entitled to our curmudgeonliness, but I don't really see how studying comics academically would differ in principle from studying film, though certainly any artform has its share of boring works.

one way street, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

The Washington Post ain't what it was.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

I can think of a bunch, c'mon Hurting

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

maybe the interesting part is when the author quotes his 2013-grad research assistant:

While in college, I took a variety of humanities classes, including several women’s studies and gender studies classes where we discussed sensitive topics like sexual assault, abortion, and genital mutilation. Although I had several professors acknowledge that we would be discussing challenging material, I never once heard the phrase “trigger warning” or “triggering” from any faculty or any of my fellow students.

The first time I saw the phrase “trigger warning” was nearly a year after I graduated, when a then-current student used it when sharing an article about campus sexual assault on Facebook. I had to look the phrase up on Urban Dictionary. When I talk about trigger warnings with fellow 2013 grads, many have never heard of them and struggle to understand the concept. Those who are familiar with trigger warnings generally do not remember hearing the phrase used during our time on campus.

However, when I shared Greg and Jon’s article with current students at my alma mater, I was intrigued by not only how many rushed to defend trigger warnings but also how many consider them a common courtesy. I think this is what explains why trigger warnings have been generating so much discussion and debate— people are mystified by how quickly they are gaining prevalence on campuses. The fact that just two years removed from campus a phenomenon most of my fellow students did not even know existed has become a practice many consider a matter of basic decency is fascinating.

The NCAC’s recent survey on trigger warnings found that 13 percent of professors said they had received requests from students for trigger warnings. About 11 percent said students in their classes had complained to them or to administrators about their failure to use trigger warnings. Some might argue that these percentages sound too small to indicate a campus trend, but when you take into account how low those percentages likely were just two years ago, it does seem that this is indeed a rapidly growing campus practice.

j., Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

Considering how the concept of PTSD has spread from its initial application to post-combat soldiers to being applied to other traumas, this just seems like another step in that progression. For me, the warnings are not an issue, in that they are a very minimal accommodation and requires almost no time or effort to provide. They will also help to raise awareness of PTSD.

Where things get tricky is the question of whether a professor has any further obligations beyond simply warning students that some of the course material might trigger their PTSD. Which is to say does the standard of making a 'reasonable accommodation' require a professor to change the course materials for PTSD students or excuse PTSD students from work expected of their classmates. Once you contemplate that, you've entered a different and more dangerous territory.

Aimless, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

I'd be interested in seeing their survey data (looks like about ~750 replies) sorted by discipline.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

I think the rapid rise of trigger warnings is more closely tied to the rapid rise in spoiler alerts than any awareness and understanding of PTSD.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

haha like by isomorphism somehow

j., Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

read the kelefa sanneh nyorker one yesterday, it was ok but you kind of realize how the "read two or three trade books representing either side of the topic" format of those kinds of new yorker pieces are maybe increasingly irrelevant when so much of the discussion is happening online. like he reads books by two conservative fox news talking heads and another by a liberal fox news pundit, not exactly who i think of as driving these conversations

flopson, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

link http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-hell-you-say

flopson, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/magazine/why-we-should-fear-university-inc.html?action=click&contentCollection=magazine®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=1

deboer gettin that nyt money

If students have adopted a litigious approach to regulating campus life, they are only working within the culture that colleges have built for them. When your environment so deeply resembles a Fortune 500 company, it makes sense to take every complaint straight to H.R. I don’t excuse students who so zealously pursue their vision of campus life that they file Title IX complaints against people whose opinions they don’t like. But I recognize their behavior as a rational response within a bureaucracy. It’s hard to blame people within a system — particularly people so young — who take advantage of structures they’ve been told exist to help them. The problem is that these structures exist for the institutions themselves, and thus the erosion of political freedom is ultimately a consequence of the institutions. When we identify students as the real threat to intellectual freedom on campus, we’re almost always looking in the wrong place.

Current conditions result in neither the muscular and effective student activism favored by the defenders of current campus politics nor the emboldened, challenging professors that critics prefer. Instead, both sides seem to be gradually marginalized in favor of the growing managerial class that dominates so many campuses. Yes, students get to dictate increasingly elaborate and punitive speech codes that some of them prefer. But what could be more corporate or bureaucratic than the increasingly tight control on language and culture in the workplace? Those efforts both divert attention from the material politics that the administration often strenuously opposes (like divestment campaigns) and contribute to a deepening cultural disrespect for student activism. Professors, meanwhile, cling for dear life, trying merely to preserve whatever tenure track they can, prevented by academic culture, a lack of coordination and interdepartmental resentments from rallying together as labor activists. That the contemporary campus quiets the voices of both students and teachers — the two indispensable actors in the educational exchange — speaks to the funhouse-mirror quality of today’s academy.

j., Wednesday, 9 September 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

these structures exist for the institutions themselves

what could be more corporate or bureaucratic than the increasingly tight control on language and culture in the workplace?

bingo!

Aimless, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

deBoer clowns himself fairly often, but I gotta say that passage is pretty otm about how misguided it is to continuously blame student activists for any ills in modern academic culture. Students may provide the most entertaining anecdata, but young-ish professors and adjuncts live in fear of career ruination because universities have an interest in keeping them totally expendable. It's just much less entertaining to read/write about than "18-year-olds are too sensitive, can you believe what happened at [insert totally random college]"

intheblanks, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

bureaucracy is awesome and i never understand why so few people get that

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

The term bureaucracy was invented to describe the Russian government under the Czars. It was not a very cooperative or efficient government.

Aimless, Thursday, 10 September 2015 03:39 (eight years ago) link

a melancholy trotsky in exile: "perhaps bureaucracy itself is a phase of history, one from which we have yet to emerge"

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 September 2015 03:51 (eight years ago) link

probably more accurate to say chait just wasn't aware of the no-protest policy. certainly wouldn't be the first time chait's been idiotically wrong

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link

while i'm probably more of a chaiter (and, apparently, in line with obama) when it comes to the trigger warning/opt-out movement, i don't see anything wrong with students trying to block certain speakers from speaking. that seems like a pretty basic exercise in free speech to me

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

i know people who still talk about berkeley students shouting down jeane kirkpatrick in 1983 like it was some horrifying totalitarian spectacle, really awakened them to the ugliness of the left, etc., like jeane kirkpatrick was rendered helplessly mute for life

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link

(they don't literally say "and that was the moment the ringleaders should have been taken by the scruff of the neck and thrown out of the university once and for all," but)

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 02:20 (eight years ago) link

Ha -- that's my line of work. This paragraph made me lol:

The boycott, the petition states, would last until the Argus met a number of demands, including creating staff positions that pay students work study or award course credit. Currently, the Argus has enough funding for just two paid positions, and neither are part of the editorial staff. Its reporters and editors are all volunteers.

the student newspaper I advise, alas, depends on student fees allocated by SGA, the organization that the paper covers. It creates, ah, interesting confrontations on occasion, but we lack the ad revenue to be independent (and now that so many student publications which have gone indie have shut down or are in serious trouble it looked like we played it smart). We're lucky enough to pay our editors/directors and staff writers. I'd love to get more work study positions available!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

Its reporters and editors are all volunteers.

This paper is no different than many others...? How do you force things on volunteers?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

Also: college newspapers are home to terrible writing. They incubate it. College newspapers are where they learn whether deadlines and getting yelled at and being poorly or not paid means anything to them.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link

i wonder how much of their student money is itemized. when i was in school there was talk of declaring more of it so people could understand how much their fees supported various things. seems like a prevailing 'don't want my money going to any bad things' attitude (in the government e.g.) might be at play?

also wesleyan has had a lot of activity around divestment campaigns on campus iirc, so maybe it's a natural for their activist communities

still, sheesh, it's practically a bulletin board. just send in an article!

j., Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

most days opinion editors are lucky that someone sends an unsolicited piece before deadline

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

Truth. I was an Opinion editor for a year in college. I didn't really understand what I was supposed to be doing but even still there was no line of submissions waiting to be born in print.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 24 September 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link

Bringing back painful memories of the terrible op-eds I wrote for my university paper, albeit from a very different political POV to Stascavage.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 24 September 2015 08:43 (eight years ago) link

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article35735889.html

This was a cynical attack on learning and an attempt to censor writing exploring the fraught histories of U.S. overseas military interventions. Yet reflecting on such topics is exactly the task that the memory of 9/11 and all other mass atrocities urgently requires of us.

Admirably, students at UNC have consistently opposed attempts to stifle public education and critical thought. This includes strong resistance to smear campaigns against UNC orchestrated by the John William Pope Center that aim to justify university budget cuts in order to advance the program of tax cuts being pushed by North Carolina’s state legislature.

It is time to end the hijacking of the public trauma of 9/11 for the service of such narrow political agendas. To ask critical questions about the legacies of mass atrocity is our collective responsibility. If we don’t answer that call, there will be no possibility of moving beyond the acts of retribution, hatred and fear that continue to remake today’s world in the image of Manhattan’s rubble.

Neel Ahuja is associate professor of English, comparative literature and geography at UNC-Chapel Hill. He is the author of “Bioinsecurities: Disease Interventions, Empire, and the Government of Species,” forthcoming from Duke University Press. He teaches the courses “Literature of 9/11” and “The New Wars” at UNC.

j., Saturday, 26 September 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link


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