pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

AND he's ahead of rem and Peter gabriel

someone told Daryl in 1984 that he would win thirty years later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTDJKSokVIY

the trooper
you got another thing comin
fuckin', CRAZY TRAIN
a dangerous meeting

nothin'

oh cool, I wanna do one.

Big Black "Kerosene"
Randy Travis "On The Other Hand"
Bobby Brown "On Our Own"
Phil Collins & Philip Bailey "Easy Lover"
Teena Marie "Lovergirl"
Black Sabbath "Neon Knights"
Tracy Ullman "They Don't Know"
Def Leppard "Hysteria"
The Plimsouls "A Million Miles Away"
Psychedelic Furs "Love My Way"

The absence of Ronnie James Dio is kinda fucked IMO. Too bad the list wasn't written in August 2010.

no paul simon is pretty bad, also if we're arguing for metal inclusions i'd throw some st. vitus on there

but i like this list, it's fine

It is def fine and ok.

another ten potentially replacing the aforementioned ten (and it was d-40's edict not mine)

foreigner, "urgent"
pylon, "cool"
gang of four, "what we all want"
butthole surfers, "the shah sleeps in lee harvey's grave"
taylor dayne, "i'll be your shelter"
cyndi lauper, "money changes everything"
lisa lisa & cult jam, "head to toe"
robert palmer, "johnny & mary"
bangles, "hero takes a fall"
ice-t, "you played yourself"

oh and replace "gypsy" with lindsey's "trouble" and replace one of the smiths songs with rem's "fall on me" or "its the end of the world" THE SMITHS DONT NEED THREE IF REM ONLY HAS ONE, MR HAPPY DAYS TO THE CONTRARY

dammit apparently "i'll be your shelter" was a '90 single, don't wanna be a hypocrite ok how about bonnie raitt's "nick of time"

but yeah to reaffirm its a fine list of 200 songs there's just no reason for there to be so many artists appearing multiple times

This is just based on what Perpetua said to me on fb—he spends a lot of time with people younger than we are—but R.E.M. are incredibly uncool, painfully so, with current 20-somethings.

i thought that, but an intern at work said she was a big fan when i suggested as much, maybe people just don't want to talk to matt about them

Yeah, kids don't lose their shit over R.E.M. anymore.

What's the age range of their current staff? Has it always been 20-somethings?

yeah now kids lose their shit over george benson

would love to get Perp's thoughts on Chaka Khan

the timing of the super high placement of "Straight Outta Compton" seems a bit on-the-nose, especially since every list entry urges you to listen to the song on Apple Music

maybe people just don't want to talk to matt about them

Definite possibility.

xp I think it's probably partly influenced by the current N.W.A re-appreciation due to the film, but when I think of all the other rap songs from the 80s that had a shot at placing that high I can't think of any that has longer legs than that one, especially considering how both directly and indirectly N.W.A charted the course for rap's entire next decade.

talking to Perp about R.E.M. is like talking to me about Gore Vidal: put the money on the bar and quietly walk away.

xp I honestly never knew George Benson played on that song. Over time, I've heard a few 20-somethings rep for Bill Withers. But ultimately, this is a tracks list. It doesn't necessarily mean they're repping for the entire discographies of all the artists represented.

he sings on it too!

Oh my mistake, I got "Give Me the Night" confused with "Just the Two of Us."

oh and replace "gypsy" with lindsey's "trouble"

over my dead body!

REM has always been the worst in my book, I'm never gonna get what people see in them

oh it's just pretty mush, led zep for scaredycats, but i had their first decade memorized by the age of 15 so i'll argue they should be as represented on this list as tears for fears

lol the list is actually better and slightly more idiosyncratic than the ilm poll results ;_;

swap out both guns n roses songs for whodini "friends" and newcleus "jam on it"

put toto's "africa" at the #1 spot (jk but that song rules anyway)

speaking of toto, i will not hear any complaints about mj's "human nature" being so high!

'human nature' is an uber classic & my highest ranking personal fav mj song

The instrumental rideout with Vincent Price's monologue on "Thriller" is my favorite MJ song, but I guess parts of songs aren't eligible.

newcleus "jam on it"

This song changed my life as a 9 year old.

led zep for scaredycats

Yes you are so hardcore and an intellectual giant who had it all down at fifteen

haha dude i sooooo didn't think that at 15

and i still love rem, i'm just also capable of lighthearted, albeit reductive sum-ups

personally revisited H&O for this list & found "Your Kiss Is On My List" has aged best but nothing i could do

ok i really don't understand led zep for scaredycats, help me croup

well like led zep they're an exceptionally gorgeous band that swung pretty wildly stylistically compared to their peers, a singer whose lyrical quality is dubious but there's no denying people cling to his siren song. and like led zep they shoulda broke up with the drummer went out of commission. "scaredycats" just cuz like this shit is timid mush compared to zep, c'mon

and the point that i heard rem '83-'93 by high school isn't meant to be impressive. it's not impressive to like a top ten hit when your 10, and eventually have the band's discography by 15. my point is that its hard for me to engage with rem in a "how to convince an adult they're the bees knees" when my sense of them being the bees knees came when i was so young.

when the drummer went out of commission, rather

i realize this is very reductive shorthand, but no one should reach terror level You Think You're So Great about it

nah they picked the right H&O

k i'll allow it.

my case--in the 80s they wrote a bunch of snappy little numbers, in the 90s they were a much more interesting arena band than u2.

if the problem is "scaredycats" is too dismissive, pretend i said "sensitives" or "liberals" or whatever - i coulda called zep "rem for vikings" on the other side of the coin

I played a Rickenbacker 360 at Guitar Center a month or so ago and it was like, wow, this is truly a beautiful musical instrument.

It was like two grand or something.

nah they picked the right H&O

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song is played

anyway idk why people are mocking the george benson cut when its a certified quincy jones / rod temperton slapper in the vein of 'rock with you' 'stomp' and 'ai no corrida'

20 favs that didnt make it

Bananarama: "Cruel Summer"
Marshall Jefferson: "Move Your Body"
Audio Two: "Top Billin'"
Bernard Wright: "Who Do You Love"
Michael Franks: "Lotus Blossom"
Shirley Lites: "Heat You Up"
SOS Band: "Just Be Good to Me"
Prince: I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man
Debarge: "I Like It"
Billy Idol: "Rebel Yell"
Paris: I Choose You
Nick Straker Band: "A Little Bit of Jazz"
Gwen Guthrie: "7th Heaven"
Eric B and Rakim: My Melody
Gypsy Kings: "Bamboleo"
Lil Louis: "French Kiss"
Spoonie Gee: Love Rap
Anita Baker: Sweet Love
Paul Simon: "The Boy In the Bubble"
Cameo: "She's Strange"

also, everything on Hotter than July by Stevie Wonder

5 more

Keith Sweat: "How Deep Is Your Love"
Alicia Meyers: I Want To Thank You
LL Cool J: "I'm Bad"
Jan Hammer: Crockett's Theme
Regina Belle: "Baby Come To Me"

ok im done

Hmm, just noticed they didn't rate Pump Up the Volume by M/A/R/R/S. That's kinda inexplicable.

loooool yessss

they should have put "pump up the jam" on in honor of this timeless thread: PUMP UP THE VOLUME /V/S/ PUMP UP THE JAM (clearly the p4k staff has read all of ilm's classic threads)

oh hey, i did this (because of course i did)
ILX's 200 Songs of the 80's That Aren't in Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 80's Spotify Playlist
We're only short 60 or so. Make your case.

^compiles most everything available on the service that's been mentioned since the list came up, if it wasn't clear

(plus, you know, a number of tracks i wanted on)
been listening to dazz band while compiling this, worth the work