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How do I 'heart' a song any more?

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:01 (eight years ago) link

I was kind of wondering that myself. Seems to work from the desktop app but not the site.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:09 (eight years ago) link

unbreak my heart, last.fm

feargal czukay (NickB), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:11 (eight years ago) link

I tried signing up for Libre.fm but that doesn't work either, never got an email to activate my account, and no way to request it be resent.

The internet sucks.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 11:10 (eight years ago) link

Not sure whats going on with Soundclouds future, but that feels like something Myspace should be monitoring as a way back in? (not that they would do it right but still)

anvil, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

As someone who dgaf about dj sets and mixes, Soundcloud will probably continue to be just fine for my needs. It's only people who are uploading copyrighted material that are getting scrutiny.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link

Is it just me or is there no "Forgot password" link anywhere to be found as I've done just that and now can't log in (and the desktop app has stopped too as it requires "re-authenticating")?

groovypanda, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

tbh though I just want lastfm to do whatever's needed to survive. i kind of doubt this is that, but if it is i'll grin and bear it (kind of shocked it still exists at all)

soyrev, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

All I used this site for was a plug in which showed me my top 20 albums from the previous week and the previous year. This doesn't work anymore but that could be a good thing? I stupidly often found myself listening to stuff with the express purpose of pushing it up my charts so I could see the thumbnail in my "top listens"

If this kills my interest in the site it might be a good thing. I have one iPod full of music that scrobbles, one that doesn't. Guess which one I listen to more.

I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

I suppose if this does kill last.fm maybe people will be more invested in making libre.fm an alternative, so it may end up being a good thing. I had a look at libre.fm but it's very basic, just scrobbles your songs with no extra features, and since the events are the thing I mostly use last.fm for, not having events at all is a deal-breaker.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link

The approach should really be: "your stats, how would you like to view them?" rather than "here are some stats of yours, presented by us"

brimstead, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

Some disgruntled users have started a petition - 1,385 "signatures" at the last count in just over 24 hours - I personally can't see that making any difference at all, myself.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

They've now restored/re-implemented the "delete account" function. Should be interesting to see how many users delete their accounts now.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

The approach should really be: "your stats, how would you like to view them?" rather than "here are some stats of yours, presented by us"

this

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Would there be an interest in a OS X iTunes data-mining app that could aggregate listening statistics similar to how Last.FM should be doing it? Asking for a friend...

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

The friend is me.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

I'm kind of willing to wait a week or two before rage quitting, you know? It's a dumb site for statscocking and finding out about music, I can live without it if I have to but maybe they'll fix it.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link

If you're pondering your post-Last.fm future, you might be interested in this article, featuring Matt Ogle, once of Last.fm and This Is My Jam, who is now working on discovery and personalization things at Spotify...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

you forgot the link

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

sounds like something I'd like to read though

soyrev, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

I really really hate the Song Title - Artist change.

Also they've changed my profile picture to an old one.

Also web scrobbling seems to have stopped working.

emil.y, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

I do actually like the graph you get of scrobbles per year/month/week. Could do with some colouring in tho.

nashwan, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

I do actually like the graph you get of scrobbles per year/month/week. Could do with some colouring in tho.

Yeah. I was really surprised at how uniform mine was. Basically seem to scrobble 100 tracks each and every day.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Good god. last.fm's "similar artists" feature was pretty much the deepest and most useful/accurate of its kind on the net. But with the new redesign, only 10 similar artists are displayed. Bah!

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

^yeah, this is my biggest complaint. I haven't scrobbled in years, but up until recently I still used last.fm for recommendations.

I also noticed that shoutboxes now only include the 10 most recent shouts (whereas you used to be able to browse through hundreds of shouts dating back nearly a decade)

scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 23 August 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

^the shoutbox thing may seem trivial, but there was a certain value in being able to see how casual music fans reacted to Sung Tongs upon its initial release (also I made some quality zings/shitposts in Neutral Milk Hotel's shoutbox over the years, and I was counting on being able to return to them in my old age)

scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 23 August 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

i just want scrobbling to work again for me

soyrev, Monday, 24 August 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

I've been scrobbling since 2001, and this new site is a real bummer for me. Its just so ugly and unnecessary, and they just dumped a whole bunch of customization features in order to make a website that is as pleasant as Windows 8. The site has made itself pretty unusable for what I liked to do with it, so I might just delete what is currently my oldest account on the internet.

Frobisher, Monday, 24 August 2015 01:46 (eight years ago) link

I don't think I understand libre.fm. Does it just keep track of these weird no-label songs in its own library? It's reminding me of the OG mp3.com with these tracks.

Frobisher, Monday, 24 August 2015 01:57 (eight years ago) link

i'm taking a wait and see attitude for now. usually when something updates and ppl moan i usually roll my eyes so i was kinda impressed that no, this change really is as disastrously bad as it's been made out to be. they've destroyed like 90% of the functionality of the site, on nearly every front - social media, music suggestion, personal data mining, etc. even w/ the cosmetic changes i have to think there was a better way to do that (actually i know there was as i've seen it in various apps etc ppl have made to personalize last.fm over the years). i scrobbled a) because to an extent i like have the data recorded and accessible (i can't justify this) and b) it made suggestions more accurate and useful. the social aspect came into play here in that i could see whoelse scrobbled this act and then see if they scrobbled a similar act and to what extent. a competitor would be nice, esp if i could export that data, but it would only really work if a) my "friends" were also on there and b) it was easily compatible w/ spotify, itunes, etc.

i don't know how many other ppl cared about this aspect of last.fm, overwhelmingly most ppl i knew used it as a streaming service once upon a time and haven't been on there in many years. it would be interesting and perhaps not that hard to do (obv they know what you play and when) for spotify to add this feature, though ppl might freak out on 'privacy' grounds.

balls, Monday, 24 August 2015 02:04 (eight years ago) link

I am a weirdo who likes meticulous lists of my music habits broken up into several different variables... and the recommendations.

Frobisher, Monday, 24 August 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link

So, lemme get this straight, from what I've been reading about this:

1. You no longer have "friends" on the site, more "people you are following" and "people who are following you" - why this needed to be changed, I don't know.

2. There is no way of seeing who your "neighbours" are, or the accounts of the people your music taste closely matches... therefore, how are you meant to find people to "follow"? Random browsing?

3. There is no "compatibility bar", therefore no way of quickly seeing how closely a persons music taste matches yours without browsing deep into their library, in which case you have to use the numerous drop-down menus to actually see for yourself, whereas before you could conveniently see most of this information on a persons front page.

4. No display of a persons age, gender or location on their actual profile, they've limited the "About Me" section to a smaller amount of characters and there's a lack of customisation to a persons profile. There's also (at present) no "groups". You still have your shoutbox and private messages, but basically it seems that they've hollowed out most of the "social" element, rendering it almost useless on that front.

5. The "recommendations" function has been pared back considerably, where once you were able to go quite deep into the recommendations portion of the site, now it only displays 10 results at any given time. Apparently, you can't "dismiss" anything or "add" anything to your library at the moment. You have the ability to view recommendations by Artists, Albums or Track, but from what I've read, people are getting track recommendations for tracks they've already listened to and album recommendations for Greatest Hits/Best Of's or artists which already have hundreds of listens on their profile. What's the point? It basically seems like they've taken a perfectly great feature and again, rendered it almost useless.

6. From the sounds of it, the seem to have focused more on the re-design of the site rather than solving a more frustrating problem, which is getting people's tracks to fucking scrobble properly without having "lost" scrobbles etc.

On the other hand, here's what you can do...

1. Better, deeper way of actually browsing through what you've listened to over the years, which I suppose is great, but at the cost of all the features they've stripped out of the site?

2. On the main page you can see what artists and songs are "trending", which is great if you choose to listen to or seek out music that way but many, many people don't - for those that didn't care about how many people were listening to Lana Del Rey, Arctic Monkeys, Coldplay or The Beatles on a daily basis, they tended to use the site by seeking out like-minded people with similar tastes or using the recommendations function. Oh, wait...

So basically, if you want to keep up with what's popular and you don't mind being a "statistic", then last.fm seems to be a good option. For finding people with similar tastes to chew the fat with or to find deep recommendations on that site, I think the game is up... as for scrobbling/stats, well, they're pretty useless just on their own. Personally, I don't need to see an on-screen layout of everything that I've listened to the most to know what my favourite albums or artists are. Remove the social/recommendations aspect to it and there is legitimately no fucking point of scrobbling - might as well use a search engine, or your "play count" function on your media player, and stop worrying about whether the scrobbler is working properly or not.

I guess audioscrobbler/last.fm was a pretty novel thing or a good experiment at first, but I think its definitely ran its course and is worthless in its current form.

another good feature apparently taken away: "friends who listen to this artist"

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

unregistered otm re: shoutboxes

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

i do like the new "top albums" thing

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

Just noticed a lot (if not all) of my duplicate track scrobbles were cleared.

Dominique, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

Duplicates appear to have cleared for me too.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

Last.fm is now largely useless for my purposes: apprising me of recent releases artists in my library, digging deep into related artists (and usually having to exclude other locals).

Has anyone found where recent releases has moved to?

cryptic 'failure of bread' (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

scrobbling works again, dgaf about anything else

soyrev, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 04:19 (eight years ago) link

they've limited the "About Me" section to a smaller amount of characters

They've also deleted everyone's existing "About Me" text, whether it fitted the number of characters or not (pretty sure mine would've as it was a single goofy quote rather than an actual profile).

Someone I know is pissed off because apparently he actually used it to see which bands were playing in his town, add all the gigs he was going to, and use the resulting gig calendar to remind him where to be when. Now you can't see any of that stuff.

(I didn't use that stuff myself because every gig it ever told me about was in London, where I am not.)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

Someone I know is pissed off because apparently he actually used it to see which bands were playing in his town, add all the gigs he was going to, and use the resulting gig calendar to remind him where to be when. Now you can't see any of that stuff.

That is exactly what I use it for :(

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

The big question I have over this re-design is what do the last.fm developers think last.fm is for? Do they really think that people give that much of a shit about how many people are listening to The Beatles worldwide? Who cares!?

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

You can betmost of the devs arent 10+ year users of it and just want to show off what they can do and dgaf about what the users liked about it

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

Yeah. I still think there's potential for a great music-related social media site, though... even though the ones I've come across over the years haven't really hit the mark, and last.fm seems to be going down the plughole.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Wondered where the gig calendar had gone, I maybe don't sue it as much as I used to but still found it useful.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

It probably got bored of getting sued :P

I seriously don't get it (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

ha ha!

michaellambert, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link


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