Osamu Tezuka's "Phoenix"

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Not sure what the car accident theme is about, except there's all manner of violent themes that emerge... stonings, urinating on characters, casual rape are all prttty common in the overall oeuvre as well. Dude's pretty twisted.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, I feel kind of like a jerk for not finding that up in the thread. Thanks, though!

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Just finished the last volume of Phoenix this morning. Excellent recommendation, so just wanted to say thanks to the various people who were recommending it. I'm kind of curious to learn more about Tezuka's religious beliefs. Buddha was, obviously, fairly well-disposed toward Buddhism, but there were a couple Phoenix volumes that seemed highly opposed to the proliferation of Buddhism in Japan. I suppose both share a hostility to organized or state religions, but I was surprised at the portrayal of Buddhism as an evil, invading religion.

Now I want to track down the live action 1979 Phoenix adaptation with the Michel Legrand score. According to Wikipedia, I'm going to have to find a Spanish DVD. Don't suppose anyone here has actually seen it?

arango, Friday, 17 October 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

It's up on Karagarga with English subtitles, thanks for mentioning it to me, cuz I'm gonna go get it NOW. Email me off thread and I'll see about mailing you a copy.

You know that Metropolis (the anime, not the F. Lang film) is based on the second book of Phoenix, right? Also Space Firebird 2772

forksclovetofu, Friday, 17 October 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

d'oh! no seeders!

forksclovetofu, Friday, 17 October 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah, too bad. I knew about Space Firebird 2772, but I didn't realize Metropolis (which I've been meaning to see for a while) was an adaptation. I knew it was Tezuka, but I thought it was a different work. I should certainly watch it while I'm still on a Tezuka kick.

arango, Friday, 17 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I just went through what felt like a bender of Tezuka—the first volumes of Black Jack and Phoenix and three volumes of Buddha. Great stuff, as if that needs repeating.

mte, Friday, 17 October 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

So, I should read Black Jack next, then? Adolf? Dororo?

arango, Friday, 17 October 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Black Jack's cool. Totally different in tone from Buddha and what I've read of Phoenix. I mean, who dreams up an emotionally haunted mercenary supersurgeon as a comic book hero?

mte, Friday, 17 October 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

probably an emotionally haunted ex-doctor who became a comic book writer.

Dororo, Apollo's Song, MW are all great; don't neglect astroboy! The dark horse reprints are tiny, but fun reads. Buddha and Phoenix are pretty clearly the apex as far as American reprints go.

Astro/Blackjack do suffer from repetitious episodic themes, so tread lighter than you would with Buddha/Phoenix. You can burn out if you do two or three books at a time.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 17 October 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

MW sounds excellent, but the library doesn't have it. They do have Dororo and Apollo's Song, though, so maybe I'll do some shorter ones after this most recent glut. Certainly before I try the 23 volumes of Astro Boy they've got....

arango, Friday, 17 October 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

it is ridiculous that all the viz english volumes of phoenix are OOP.

adam, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

i bought them all on amazon a year or two back and i never did a full read through! need to set aside a month.

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...
one month passes...

Just read Ayako, holy cow, that was dark.

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Guys, I just watched the first episode of the OG Astro Boy, and I really did not expect it to be such a rich + multilayered text as it is or for it to be so deeply, sublimely fucked up. Soooooo I'm gonna be watching more Astro Boy, is what I'm sayin' here.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 02:14 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAzTJdgwUSM

UKXEPCTED TWITS (WmC), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 03:35 (one month ago) link


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