This sounds like the worst thing

Dude, it was a Thursday afternoon. I didn't even order pad thai.

Yes, Chai is good. I won't go to SEA, I went to the one in the east village and hated it.

http://www.myspace.com/pumpsta/

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Come on, dude, Da Pumpsta's got 34 friends on MySpace -- I just knows your MySpace universe is bigger than that!

And now we're on an all-purpose New York City trash-talkin' thread!

Yeah, article was more than a little snide. But I didn't feel that bad for him.

Shakey, trust me. I go out each Friday around 11 pm and flyer the bulk of Williamsburg, and it's nothing like the magazines make it sound. Pretty fucking boring in comparison.

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no, i don't feel bad for him either. i just think by picking such an easy target you can lapse into judging how uncool it is versus just talking about the other issues involved here. there was definitely a snide element to the article which is totally unecessary/bad journalism i think.

Reggie refrains.

mr. stencil it's all BRANDING! when you dj you need a cooler dj name and a cool name to yr party. My various parties are only kinda ok, that's why they don't do so well. You also need to play more 90s hip-hop and have friends who like the dancing.

And as far as hipsters go, we have plenty of them in the Mission. It cracks me up how much time and money people will spend in order to look bad (ironically, of course!).

-- mucho (mlopez10...), August 26th, 2005.

just by the way, the bianca casady in question is the girl from Coco Rosie

I want to approach, but I unfortunately too quickly digress into "Williamsburg is full of hipster idiots" type commentary in the early discourse.

Dan started it upthread w/r/t this being some attempt at humor via white appropriation of black culture, but again, I can't go there quite yet...

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and Dan just brought it back up...

well since my last attempt at a party failed on its first night due to ROYAL OAK being run by DOUCHEBAG FLAKEY JERKS IN SKINNY TIES AND EYELINER i've kinda given up. and there is NOTHING cooler than the name FUCK IT as a party name. just didn't get a chance to succeed since some dudes are fucking double-booking idiots.

You also need to play more 90s hip-hop and have friends who like the dancing.

no, i need to know more people who realize that "church of anthrax" is dance music!

It's easy to make fun of Williamsburg, only because it's easy to find something to make fun of in Williamsburg, even though every large neighborhood/city has something equally lame to make fun of.. but Williamsburg is still in the spotlight now... hence..

I think Williamsburg is the target of a lot of sniping because the neighborhood -- and by this I mean the hipster influx -- has some very evident conceits... the whole neo-bohemian thing. The New York press takes its potshots at W'burg pretty regularly. Less frequent is the Washington Post getting into it.

A staggering amount of sense has just been made.

sometimes I think flyering is the biggest waste of fucking time, but i'm afraid NOT to flyer for shows.

what schwantz just said, too

(and to try and hatch out the more interesting argument to come here..)

Also, I hate ironic dancing more than you know, but making fun of hip-hop or even any aspect of black culture does not make someone an immediate racist.

i do fliering for the aesthetic, because i like to have people compliment me on fliers that took me 5 minutes to make because it's fun!

My flyers say FREE BEER really big on them...

Can we please see a few attempts at equasions that sum up exactly what this guy's deal is supposed to be?

But that might be considered false advertising to some

saying you can't grind guys in "conventional hip-hop clubs" because they're too "hardcore" is approaching borderline in my book.

Well hell.

easy. mission: douchebag

I'm all equeasy now.

you've got like, me, rich zerbo and brian degraw, for what it's worth.

I just don't get the whole "ironic DJ" thing at all, in any context. And even more confounding are the people who come and dance along. If you don't REALLY like the music, then don't play it (or dance to it). If you DO really like it, then have the balls to admit it.

They like the music and they like dancing to it of course. The "humor" and "irony" part adds several things, like distance, like the ability to convince yourself that you're NOT uncomfortably appropriating somebody elses culture(i know, I know, it's all backwards), protection from admitting earnestly liking something you're not supposed to like etc etc.

I've heard nothing but questionable things about royal oak and their attitudes towards music/djs etc.

anyway, never been to a hollertronix party, I just looked at their website and it's the same thing, I mean, the image/graphics are clearly trying to represent something, which is fine, it's all marketing, but is that what hollertronix is all about? Black dudes and girls in thongs?

when you tell white kids they can get in for free if they bring a bucket of chicken, I think that qualifies...

Surely you mean flip-flops.

Lit has a strict no flip-flop policy.