Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

in politics assume foe

why should i assume anything you say

ass out of you and me iirc

like out of requiem for a dream huh? but i don't even know you!!!

when you just wanna know like, cmon are you a friend or foe

valid, but tbh i'm wary & weary of only seeing things though this lens

fair and balanced

http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/faculty-union-wins-new-protection-from-student-abuse-after-yik-yak-incident/103067

speculatively wondering if the shift isn't mainly on the part of the administrators, and if it isn't basically driven by a changed sense of academic "mission" -- the "ideal" of some sort of liberal-artsy jousting ground of "big ideas" increasingly disappeared into "an efficiently organized place for young people to learn job skills" from which flows a very different notion of the sort of campus culture they wish to create, cultivate, enforce, etc.

When I was in college they had Ice Cube play our SpringFest thing and he closed with Fuck the Police

dear old Yale

the first time i ever even had to think about asking a student to leave my classroom, i also wondered, like, why the fuck should they do what i say? if i call this student out, is my awesome magic authority as an instructor going to carry it, or will i lose face when they refuse? liberal-artsy jousting land seems to go along with that, honor codes, that sort of thing. whereas codifying instructors' procedures to perform classroom-management actions that exclude students sounds hella corporate to me.

had a kid (not a student) show up with a knife to class once, playing with it in the back of the room while I lectured on some intro bullshit. he took copious notes and gave them to the student next to him, stream of consciousness big ideas, scared the students. we called the cops, didn't seem too corporate iirc

knives = clear-cut criterion

stream of consciousness big ideas?

http://www.businessanimals.cz/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/tumblr_inline_mzzpq9vhXQ1qb6mtc.gif

this is the free speech and creepy liberalism thread, you gotta choose your words carefully

ideas not promoting workforce readiness

Must be the awesome magical authority that keeps kids seated and listening to teachers for 12+ years. It's the same magical authority that will throw a kid's parents in jail for not sending them to school.

búm

it isn't basically driven by a changed sense of academic "mission" -- the "ideal" of some sort of liberal-artsy jousting ground of "big ideas" increasingly disappeared into "an efficiently organized place for young people to learn job skills" from which flows a very different notion of the sort of campus culture they wish to create, cultivate, enforce, etc.

Students have long formed the foremost cohort in society that presents a potential threat to the stability of existing power structures. They protest the status quo more often and more vigorously than other segments of society, take to the streets or barricades with less hesitation, and often form the vanguard for more general social movements.

Conservatives instinctively prefer to manage this threat through the imposition of conformity by threat (and use) of force. Current university administrations seem to have grasped that enforcing uniformity of thought among students can best be achieved through the rhetoric of idealism, where the elimination of conflict and emotional distress through consensus is posed as the ideal social goal. They could almost be Quakers, but the resemblance is only superficial.

That is a huge turnaround from a few decades back, when the standard rhetoric of college students embraced class struggle and armed revolution as the preferred means to their social ideal. Conservatives can only see this as 'coddling', because they look at the rhetoric, but not the results. They ought to see it as a brilliant strategy to pacify what is traditionally the most unruly and volatile segment of society.

Maybe off by 'a few decades'. The Reagan 80s were def not like that.

I was well out of college by then, but my impression was that the social ideal of the Reagan era was (I'm paraphrasing here) "times are tough, so it's every man for himself, buckos".

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1310&dat=19700607&id=bqpVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=M-EDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6708%2C1324457&hl=en

LIASON WITH THE YOUNG

amazing

http://www.rt.com/usa/311664-school-child-lawsuit-god/

little nietzsche

As a Christian, I knew that my beliefs and identity would be challenged at a progressive university like Duke.

multiple women, like all at once???????

I’m not opposed to reading memoirs written by LGBTQ individuals or stories containing suicide. I’m not even opposed to reading Freud, Marx or Darwin.

even?????

lol

seems a lil different to treat a book (discussion) as a potential detriment to mental health than as a poison that will sap your faith

(or is it?!?!)

how do these people even get into college, i don't understand

managed to not soak a FAFSA form in blood or feces

i mean that kid actually seems really smart, no doubt. but it seems there should be a question on the common app like, "if assigned a text or project whose content conflicts with your previously-held beliefs, will you engage with it?"

kid is apparently going to study public health in sub-saharan africa. can't wait to read his paper: "Abstinence for Africa"

a person for whom a classic national geographic would actually seem pornographic

Luckily there is no sex nor violence in the Bible, so his story checks out.

How does a story like this end up on the Washington Post? Someone doesn't feel like doing his homework and becomes a hero.

Also when is he planning on gouging out his right eye?

He has admitted not being able to view these images without it compromising him, it's the entire crux of the piece. If he believes so strongly in the words of the Bible he should following the very words he is quoting. What an idiot.

they mean comics with lesbian oral sex in them, but they didn't mean gouging gouging

i soaked my fafsa in blood and feces both and they still let me in college

There's still a curmudgeonly part of me that's like "really, a graphic novel as required college reading?"

I mean there are good ones, I just haven't seen many that are challenging enough to benefit from reading in a college course I guess.

I've taught Fun Home before--it's really a rich text, and densely allusive (although of course there are more interesting things to do critically than unpacking allusions). We're all entitled to our curmudgeonliness, but I don't really see how studying comics academically would differ in principle from studying film, though certainly any artform has its share of boring works.

The Washington Post ain't what it was.

I can think of a bunch, c'mon Hurting

xp

criticism of the earlier article

http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/all/2015/08/debating-the-new-campus-pc/402113/#note-403108-how-widespread-are-trigger-warnings-really

maybe the interesting part is when the author quotes his 2013-grad research assistant:

While in college, I took a variety of humanities classes, including several women’s studies and gender studies classes where we discussed sensitive topics like sexual assault, abortion, and genital mutilation. Although I had several professors acknowledge that we would be discussing challenging material, I never once heard the phrase “trigger warning” or “triggering” from any faculty or any of my fellow students.

The first time I saw the phrase “trigger warning” was nearly a year after I graduated, when a then-current student used it when sharing an article about campus sexual assault on Facebook. I had to look the phrase up on Urban Dictionary. When I talk about trigger warnings with fellow 2013 grads, many have never heard of them and struggle to understand the concept. Those who are familiar with trigger warnings generally do not remember hearing the phrase used during our time on campus.

However, when I shared Greg and Jon’s article with current students at my alma mater, I was intrigued by not only how many rushed to defend trigger warnings but also how many consider them a common courtesy. I think this is what explains why trigger warnings have been generating so much discussion and debate— people are mystified by how quickly they are gaining prevalence on campuses. The fact that just two years removed from campus a phenomenon most of my fellow students did not even know existed has become a practice many consider a matter of basic decency is fascinating.

The NCAC’s recent survey on trigger warnings found that 13 percent of professors said they had received requests from students for trigger warnings. About 11 percent said students in their classes had complained to them or to administrators about their failure to use trigger warnings. Some might argue that these percentages sound too small to indicate a campus trend, but when you take into account how low those percentages likely were just two years ago, it does seem that this is indeed a rapidly growing campus practice.