Apple Music vs Spotify

of all the "artist ponders the effect of streaming" articles, this is my favorite, for acknowledging that music fans were saying GIMME GIMME GIMME long before the internet was around: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/travis-morrison/hey-dude-from-cracker-im_b_1610557.html

i mean maybe you took great pride in being a financial patron of the arts in the 90s but imo "Attitudes to music, musicians, labels etc" haven't changed much at all. and its the labels saying GIMME GIMME GIMME that bear the greater responsibility to think of the ramifications

Entertaining and true...

Will Spotify ever be forced to go premium only?

Apple music.

I used free Spotify since it came to the states back in 2011, but it was never my sole listening service, I love physical products too much. But with the free trial and my addiction to Apple hype I've been using Apple Music and I quite like it and think I'll continue using it (again not replacing the physical CDs I regularly buy,, but more as a supplement for checking new/unsure things out via torrent like I used to).

The main advantages over Spotify for me are the UI (despite bus)) and the curated content. Like others itt I've found 90S% of the "For You" playlists to be very cool. Spotify was never horrible, but it was never a kind of software that really drew me in and made me want to explore like Apple Music does. Spotify sort of feels like a tool--you open it up, search for the songs you feel like checking out, thats it thats all.

Apple has so far been unwilling or unable to rectify my issues (giving me the 3 months free). If they can't resolve it, I'm going to take that as my cue to start transitioning out of their unnecessarily prescriptive universe and going toward Android and PC platforms as my old devices reach the end of their life spans.

One of the big reasons I wanted to go with Apple Music was their higher streaming royalty rates. No artist can make anything like a decent amount of money from Spotify's pittance. But I'm also looking for ways to not go totally broke with my whole family buying digital music.

Google Play also pays higher rates, but we'd need 4 accounts at $40/mo rather than the $15 for Apple or Spotify. Not a killer, but significant nonetheless.

Apple rates are basically the same as Spotify's.

Hm, I thought I'd read that they were more in line with Google Play/Groove.

Wait, if they're paying the same as Spotify, why is T swift on board? More research required.

companies sometimes can just, like, give money to taylor swift sometimes, if they want to, for things

But they won't give me $45. Damn, I gotta write a huge string of hits.

Premium Spotify rates are basically equal to Apple rates (once the user starts paying). TS didn't like the Spotify Free rates (or that they had a free option at all) so she took her music off the whole service.

I bet she will be getting a far superior rate for herself on Apple Music though. The rest is just good advice from her PR.

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heh

Me and my 9 pals.

apple music just deleted a saved playlist while i was listening to it. in the middle of playing a song. these poll results are correct.

Looks like Apple have a lot of work to do

AA, you've had more problems with AM than anyone I know. I'm worried that if you continue to use AM, you will be winked out of existence. Please back yourself up.

I'm going with google play for now. Somewhat comically, the search function is its main drawback right now. It often shows me stuff I didn't ask for (like totally different artists from the one I searched for) and they mysteriously removed all genres. I think they're bringing them back soon though. There's no curation at the moment but after trying to get along with apple for a while now I'd say it's all for the better. Plus, you can upload 50 000 tracks for free. That sure helps.

Somewhat comically, the search function is its main drawback right now.

Lol yeah I use Google Play too and the search function is close to useless. You'd really think that'd be one thing Google wouldn't have a problem with. I've been a bit surprised at the mostly positive comments about it in these threads actually. I'm using the free tier for the ability to store 50,000 of my own tracks in the cloud -- it's nice to be able to stream my library though Sonos without the computer having to be on -- and I'd also expected to use it as a quick way to swap music in and out of my phone without having to sync to iTunes, but in addition to the search issue the UI on the iOS app is just terrible. So painful to scroll through artists in those big bubbles (which I often have to do since search doesn't work). There's no way I'd pay for this with the app in the condition it's in now. Also I can't help feeling that on the occasions I do use the app to play music on my phone it sounds very slightly less clear than other apps -- though that may be a purely psychological response to my annoyance with it.

unbelievable to me how many basic design flaws these services have, considering what's at stake

I was going to give Spotify another chance but you still can't search local files on the desktop. They promised this would be fixed in a future version but it's been 6 months.

spotify's good at encouraging people to vote up suggested improvements into what seems to be a graveyard of suggested improvements. but then i see stuff like discover weekly and fresh finds, and all's forgiven.

AA, you've had more problems with AM than anyone I know. I'm worried that if you continue to use AM, you will be winked out of existence. Please back yourself up.

otm. i'd reset my phone and itunes database if i thought it'd help, but i don't think it'd help.

My problem is that this was a functioning part of the desktop app that I used everyday and they just removed it one day. Now I have to scroll through thousands of songs by title? It's absurd.

Most of their developers probably use the desktop version but how many have local files on their work computers? Just sayin..

I guess most people just don't have their own files anymore.

^^^ I find this insane btw

What is Apple's coverage like for classical music and dance music? Spotify is pretty great for the former and very patchy for the latter - suppose it depends on how many smaller labels Apple have on board?

<3 apple music great service

hey bono

Spotify has been fantastic for finding recordings of a lot of the choral music I've sung over the years, as evidenced by my Unbelievable Choral Works playlist

link pls

Some Dylan songs I couldn't find on Spotify but are on Apple Music:
Positively 4th Street
Can You Please Crawl Out Window?

and seems to be a lot more Dylan. Perhaps this was already discussed on a Dylan thread

apple music seems to enjoy replacing album art with mystery dylan.

seriously apple music is fucking weird who even though this was a good idea

iTunes has always been bad at album art. Granted, it's a tough job, but you'd think they would at least get the artist right.

https://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/6bWnlWmCk45LxCffWeTSpR

Sorry, just saw the request for that spotify playlist. Hope you're still interested, sendalai!

still not having any of these issues Autumn has with apple music.

Autumn, have you double-checked to make sure the "Turn Apple Music Into A Broken Nightmare" toggle is off?

damn toggle keeps turning self back on

last week i thought "hey maybe it's safe to try this thing again" and it had deleted another 60-odd tracks

Turned off the auto-renew and shut it all down. No thanks.

how do you turn off autorenew again? i turned off "show apple music" in prefs

app store -> apple id -> view apple id -> subscriptions -> manage

So Spotify is way better for making my own playlists and seeing shared playlists - albeit with virtually no reasonable access to my own files (this wasn't a problem before the change 6 mos ago). Also, Discover Weekly is good - although more as just a personalized radio station.

However, Apple music's "For You" playlists are *really* good. They're like comps I would have actually bought back in the old days. I've saved a lot of them for future listening. I'm so used to doing my own curation, either through my own files or Spotify, that it's strange to give up control and just play something curated by someone else. I guess it's another case of letting go and just letting Apple take care of things which has been an ultimately freeing experience for other things.

I'll have to decide whether I miss the control, but I think I'm ultimately listening more with Apple Music and feeling like I have new comps I'm looking forward to actually listening to (instead of always feeling like I still have a comp to make myself - which of course I never listen to once I make it).

All that said, I'm still on the fence.

my three months is up. def sticking w spotify