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With the exact same squad, I might add.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Saturday, 8 August 2015 05:33 (eight years ago) link

I feel like that's been the way the league has gone this year. weeeeeeird season. strange too cos the Fire sure showed a fuck ton of speed and attack against us in the OPen Cup - would expect that to yield results more often than not, esp against Portland (who even my boys scored twice on).

bummed to miss my second consecutive Orlando City home match (tho for a great reason - a wedding). renewed for next year tho.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 8 August 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link

OK normally I find John Kass an odious blowhard but when it comes to the Fire he captures the supporter zeitgeist perfectly

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-chicago-fire-met-0814-20150814-column.html

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 14 August 2015 03:08 (eight years ago) link

that links not working for me.

mls season has been p strange for me, following the whitecaps. currently sitting top in the western conference, second in the league overall (with the proviso that there's teams close behind with games in hand). the caps often look poor. belaboured going forward, careless at the back - pa modou kah is a bombscare. they have a great record on the road, but a poor home record. david ousted is a great goalkeeper. they've won a lot of their games with late goals in low-scoring games. they've been both unlucky and lucky with many of their results in games that ive watched. unmerited victories. bitter defeats.pedro morales sometimes looks great, sometimes awfully careless in possession. octavio rivero is a decent forward.

so almost guaranteed the playoffs, have no idea how they'll do in them.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 14 August 2015 03:22 (eight years ago) link

Huh, not sure why, it works for me. Seemingly random things get paywalled on the Trib site sometimes.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 14 August 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link

ah yeah that was the deal for me.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 14 August 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link

Seems like you might be able to get around it by hitting the "reader view" button in Firefox? I don't pay for Trib articles, who knows. Maybe it's a Canada thing.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 14 August 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link

Reading your assessment of Vancouver makes them sound an awful lot like the Earthquakes of 2011 or 2012, can't remember which, where they were awful but ended up scoring boatloads of late goals games and won the regular season title (and flaming out in the playoffs).

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 14 August 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

here


chicagotribune.com
'Tradition, Honor, Passion' with the Chicago Fire? Not so much anymore
Chicago Tribune

Chicago hates losers, especially lovable, hapless losers.

Yet the new Cubs, with all that young talent, are no longer the lovable losers of Chicago. And, according to "Back to the Future Part II," the North Siders have already won the World Series this year.

The White Sox are still the White Sox, playing the Cubs this weekend. The Blackhawks are Stanley Cup champions.

The Bulls? A sad, desperate Jimmy-Derrick soap opera to come. The Bears? Jay Cutler. Whatever.

But there's another team out there that plays in Chicago summers, losers, yes, but not lovable. Sports media doesn't much care, but their fans care, fans like me who love the club but hate to see what's happened to it.

The Chicago Fire.

Yeah, the soccer team, with the famed credo many of you have never heard: Tradition, Honor, Passion.

And now? No tradition, no passion. Major League Soccer is a supremely physical league. But we're forced to watch so-called stars play defense as if they were a bunch of gentle Hobbits with hairy feet.

With the other teams (Hawks excepted) collapsing or failing, the Fire had a chance to make a mark. They made their mark all right. On their shoes.

They're in last place in the worst division in the league. And the other day they lost their only chance at a trophy by falling, haplessly, 1-0 to the Philadelphia Union in the U.S. Open Cup playoff.

"I'm gutted for the club and our fans right now," said head coach Frank Yallop.

Gutted? Like a fish, Frank, you and all the rest of us.

Some think the evil eye has been put on them. One fan who sits behind me at Toyota Park — I'll call him Jimmy V — wants to put charms around the field to ward off the mati, or the moogli (evil eye).

Others of us think owner Andrew Hauptman, a wealthy movie producer who lives in California, is a cheapskate who either can't, or won't, get decent players.

Fans are so angry that in Philadelphia on Wednesday, they unfurled a huge banner declaring war with Hauptman. On it were these simple words:

Hauptman Out.

They want to embarrass the MLS into forcing a change in ownership. And it might just work.

The war started two years ago, when Hauptman foolishly released an open letter on the team's website, signed by a hapless underling, attacking fans for daring to boo Hauptman during a game.

The owner-fan relationship, if there ever was one, died that day. Now it's open war.

Fire sources say the bosses are upset with the banner. But I'd suggest if they don't like it, then sell and let someone else run the club.

One angry fan (OK, it was me) tweeted out that the Fire had just hired a new mascot: Death.

"This is rock bottom for the franchise," said Guillermo Rivera, the knowledgeable critic who writes the Chicago Fire Confidential blog carried by ChicagoNow. I'm a reader.

"The Fire have been around since '98. And they've lived up to their 'Tradition, Honor, Passion' credo for years, making playoffs and being respected," Rivera told me over the phone Thursday.

"But over the past six years, it has been the absolute opposite. You see the results and the way the organization has been run. I'm seeing fans who've been around since the beginning, fans who love the Fire, now turning their backs. They're slipping further and further into irrelevancy."

I've met Hauptman several times. He was pleasant. I don't wish him ill. This isn't personal. But he's had his chance.

All he had to do was pay for good players and leave his club alone and sit in California and make movies. But he didn't.

He's made several movies, including "State of Play" with Russell Crowe.

But Hauptman also made the 2002 sci-fi film "Thunderpants." The Internet Movie Database website describes it this way: "An 11-year-old boy's amazing ability to break wind leads him first to fame and then to death row."

Thunderpants?

I can't get that one out of my head. I fear it will never leave.

Hauptman's problem isn't "Thunderpants," it's that he's always on the phone, meddling, meddling, meddling, and being forced to overpay for mediocre players.

Now, Yallop is being made a scapegoat like the last coach, Frank Klopas.

But the problem isn't the coach. It's the owner. And he has to change his ways.

Rocky Wirtz, the best owner in town, runs a decent franchise, doesn't he? He hires people to run his Blackhawks, and he stays out of the way and Chicago loves him.

Sean Spence, who writes the soccer blog Hot Time In Old Town, says, "I compare covering the Fire to what it must have been like being a Moscow correspondent decades ago. All the suits are terrified, looking over their shoulders."

Evan Whitfield, now a Chicago lawyer, was once a tough Fire defender. I've always thought him to be fair.

"Having been a player, I can tell you that players are always trying," Whitfield said. "It's not an effort issue, it's a quality issue. This team is just not fun to watch."

As I was finishing this, the Fire released a statement by Atul Khosla, the chief operating officer.

"We certainly understand the frustration of our fans. No one associated with the Chicago Fire Soccer Club is satisfied with this season to date. The organization however remains steadfast in its commitment to winning games and being a model franchise for business practice."

Chicago Fire fans are told "Tradition, Honor, Passion," yet management speaks in the language of bureaucrats, droning on about "model business practice."

Pathetic. Hapless. Sad.

jsk✧✧✧@trib✧✧✧.c✧✧

Twitter @John_Kass

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 14 August 2015 04:20 (eight years ago) link

The reference to Thunderpants is especially lol imo.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 14 August 2015 04:21 (eight years ago) link

that's fairly depressing reading.

didnt get to see the whitecaps game this evening, for some reason it wasn't on my cable plan, they were winning 3-1 against skc, only to lose 4-3 in injury time. enigmatic and patchy as ever.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 16 August 2015 05:06 (eight years ago) link

just saw the highlights, whitecaps were 3-1 until 80 minutes. conceded 3 goals in the final 14 minutes of the match.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 16 August 2015 06:28 (eight years ago) link

that's insane. wow.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 16 August 2015 12:41 (eight years ago) link

was quite funny because i was following the whitecaps game and the local minor league baseball team's game on twitter and watching bc lions canadian football team on tv. all three of them lost! lol vancouver.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 16 August 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

Team Crest Here til I die

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Monday, 17 August 2015 08:42 (eight years ago) link

Even local public radio is picking up on the Fire's status now

Chicago Fire continue their struggles at the bottom of MLS
With 11 games to go in the Major League Soccer season, the Chicago Fire sit dead last in the Eastern Conference. They’ve got 23 points from 23 games and although they’re only 6 points away from a playoff spot, they’d have to leapfrog 4 teams. And as they say in England, that's “not bloody likely.” Chicago has a great history with the sport, and with huge populations of rabid footy fans from Eastern Europe, Mexico, and Africa to draw from, Toyota Park should be bursting with happy fans for every game. What’s happened to this once mighty franchise? We get some insight from Guillermo Rivera. He writes the Chicago Fire Confidential Blog and co-hosts a podcast of the same name.

Listen Here:
http://www.wbez.org/programs/mornin...re-continue-their-struggles-bottom-mls-112663

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Sean Johnson played out of his mind last night: https://twitter.com/Ben_Jata/status/633283671487840256

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Monday, 17 August 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

was at vancouver v dallas tonight. whitecaps won 1-0 with a nice little back-heel from Cristian Techera (incidentally surely the shortest player in mls). other than that it was utter garbage, the worst game i've seen in forever, so boring. but 'caps go top of the league.

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 23 August 2015 06:54 (eight years ago) link

Got yr Fire tonight. Oi...such a bad spell for us

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 29 August 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

my lord the weather. there were very few of us left by the time play was un-suspended at 10:45 pm.

sad at yet another draw but it was an entertaining match.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 30 August 2015 05:10 (eight years ago) link

Both teams were pretty much garbage from what I saw, but I missed the second half. Fire in particular relying on David Accam too much and becoming entirely predictable.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Sunday, 30 August 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so proud of my boys to win against Sporting KC despite missing Kaka and Ceren. much needed win.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 14 September 2015 02:04 (eight years ago) link

http://imgur.com/a/CxEIB

just astor (alomar lines), Monday, 14 September 2015 04:29 (eight years ago) link

Yup. The guy he was tweeting at (at least at first, it went on for hours) is a friend of mine. He's just the latest ex-player to speak out about his time at the Fire.

Decent wrap-up of that here: http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/09/14/ex-player-slams-chicago-fire-twitter/

Seems like Jumper was mostly talking about the 2011-2012ish group of Frank Klopas, Javier Leon, and Guillermo Petrei more than the current coaching/management regime, but imo it all comes back to ownership hiring yes men and incompetent managers/coaches/TDs/whatever who will do what ownership wants and not talk back. A lot of people really like Klopas because he's a "Chikawgo guy" and Fire to the core but there have been rumblings for a while about his shitty practices in dealing with the players.

More shit like this keeps leaking out, though, and it's good imo that it is. The club has just become more and more toxic under this ownership as the years have passed, we can only hope that something will finally change for the better at the top. A lot of fans want Hauptman to sell and gtfo, but it seems like most people would be happy with him hiring a real soccer exec as a club president and letting them run things while Hauptman sits in California and lets his SUM payments roll in.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Monday, 14 September 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link

Jeff Krause, the guy Hunter Jumper was tweeting to, is going to be on Soccer Morning today to discuss last night's action.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Monday, 14 September 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

Giovinco is absolutely taking the piss out of this league

https://vine.co/v/eFIpBwUhYU7

Number None, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

That may be so but Stevie G has the top FIFA rating lmao https://www.easports.com/fifa/news/2015/fifa-16-ratings-top-20-mls

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Fire ditch Yallop & assistants, name former MLS/SUM exec Nelson Rodriguez GM.

Fucking FINALLY.

This is one of the most accurate pieces of writing on the Fire I've seen all year: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150920/sports/150929930/

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Sunday, 20 September 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Also: Fuck Tally Hall

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Sunday, 20 September 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Lol *waves*

Tho in seriousness was relieved to escape with that one.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 20 September 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

revised player's union salary info out

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPhaxVgUYAAbYDS.png

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

I love my expansion team

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 26 September 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link

Giovinco just scored a crazy outside of the foot curving goal against the Fire.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Saturday, 26 September 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

He's important for the league, will help to legitimize it further.

Would like him more if he wasn't the biggest crybaby on the pitch but his talent is undeniable. Also lethal on set pieces.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 26 September 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link

related to league legitimization, I actually kind of enjoyed this despite 3 of the 5 goals in the videos being scored against chicago

http://fusion.net/story/204948/didier-drogba-major-league-soccer-fans/

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

Open Cup final... wouldn't mind seeing Jimmy Curtin lift the cup at all.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 1 October 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link

KC wins on penos after a fairly good game. Philly trying the Holland/Krul move bringing in the replacement GK at the last moment was gutsy, and he blocked one, but not good enough in the end.

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 1 October 2015 02:16 (eight years ago) link

2012 open cup final is still the game i'm most mad about

the only man (alomar lines), Thursday, 1 October 2015 03:18 (eight years ago) link

giovinco doing that thing again

https://vine.co/v/eEpLwW25YZi

this is after playing for italy the day before btw

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

Home finale. About 40k+ people in tow.

I'm sure this city will become ambivalent like we do with all teams here but I ain't seen excitement like this since Shaquille's rookie season here

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 16 October 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRfIlOgU8AAlmBz.jpg

u of ugi (alomar lines), Saturday, 17 October 2015 03:49 (eight years ago) link

welp bummer last game against Philly, but damn was that a fun first season for OCSC. can't wait til next - already reupped my season tix, just moved the seat to a better location.

then they announce we have a NWSL team now, the Orlando Pride, and we sign Alex Morgan via a trade. (guess she's happy, her hubby plays for OCSC). Orlando really doubling down on this soccer mania - and then they announced a b-team in Brevard county in the USL.

Central Florida now has three soccer teams. Insane to think of years ago.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

worst season in club history, failed coaches, failed players, failed ownership (again)

new gm (president?) for next year, no coach yet (though there are rumors: petke, ramos, friedel (lol) and others), no USL team, no direction, no plan

these obvious points coupled with the rumors I hear from the VP level at the club on down lead me to think the chicago MLS concern won't be relevant for a long time

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

ooft, hard times.

whitecaps in the postseason and playing at home is great for me, except im broke as hell and probably will be watching on tv, ho hum!

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

man I miss playoff games

you should be thanking chicago for hiring frank yallop at the end of 2013 instead of him going to vancouver (which was the big rumor at the time)

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

oooooooooweeeeeee this Seattle/LA game, no defending, no goalkeeping, 2-1 Seattle 12 mins in

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link

2-2, then 3-2 but called back

ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link


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