The Unassailable Miles Davis, or, To Know Him Is To Love Him

the tokyo shows? must be a european import/bootleg. i think that's basically the kinda label hi-hat is.

Disc 1
Sorry, slightly out, must have got the 12 from it being 22nd or something, still somewhat fluey, like.
This i sthe Amazon description plus some info supplied from a review

On his tour of Japan in early 1975, Miles Davis presented some of the most searing, electric fusion ever heard in concert. The performances on this 2CD set, FM broadcast, hail from a January 22 gig at Shinjuku Kohseinenkin Hall in Tokyo. Staged ten days earlier than the February 1 shows at which his Agharta and Pangaea LPs were recorded, this includes some songs not contained on those albums, and spotlights one of the most adventurous bands Davis assembled.
1. Prelude & Funk (21:47) 1st set
2. Maiysha (15:45) 1st set
3. Ife (18:21) 2nd set

Disc 2

1. Mtume (4:11) 2nd set
2. Turnaroundphrase (5:19) 2nd set
3. Tune In 5 (4:06) 2nd set
4. Untitled (10:26) - actually "Hip Skip" 2nd set

So slightly out that I can't edit properly so Disc 1 appears above where it was supposed to.

always thought that gig was June 19th 1975, will check when I'm home

all those gigs have been on DIME for years afaict

JUst found that I have it already from Dime or somewhere. Just about to have it come on.

Also have 23rd and a couple of Febrary dates.

kent jones loved it, fwiw

Kent Jones also loves the Zemeckis movie recreating the WTC wire walk fwiw

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, August 6, 2015 1:37 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol ty for this. i can't tell if it's building on a simmering jgl-centric dispute between us. i actually noted this when it got announced for nyff & it made me check my reflex cynicism! i'm pretty curious.

wrong thread?

here's the info for the Tokyo show I have:

Miles Davis
June 19, 1973
Shinjuku Kosei Nenkin Hall
Tokyo, Japan

Disc One:
1. Turnaroundphrase - 12:46
2. Tune in 5 - 9:23
3. Right Off - 1:20
4. Funk - 10:44
5. Unknown F - 10:42

Disc Two:
1. Ife - 22:15
2. Agharta Prelude - 9:48
3. Zimbabwe (faded during Mtume conga solo) - 13:33

Musicians:
Miles Davis - trumpet, organ
Dave Liebman - tenor & soprano saxophones
Pete Cosey - guitar, percussion
Reggie Lucas - guitar
Michael Henderson - bass
James "Mtume" Heath - congas, rhythm box, African percussion
Al Foster - drums

Source:
pre-FM broadcast reel

Lineage
Reel >? >bootleg CD > CDR >EAC >FLAC Frontend

so '73, not '75

No that hi hat is from the same tour as Agharta/Pangaea in 75. I was listening to the circulated bootleg last night.
It's one of a few dates from that tour I have.
Also got a couple of NYC from the same year.
He retired for a few years at some point that year.

Also forgot to mention there's video of I think the Tokyo show from that 73 tour. I know I had it, not sure if I still do.

www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/davis-miles-live-in-tokyo-1975-2cd/HH.012CD.html

1/22/75 was out previously as
http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Disco.aspx?id=AnotherUnity

So is this 1-22-75 set on HiHat worth buying? Amazon prices for it are ok; mainly wondering about sound quality, since it's FM broadcast (like a home tape?)

of course would also be nice if the performances are distinctively good

Is it worth getting if you've already got Agharta and Pangaea? (I've got 80s Japanese imports of Dark Magus and Black Beauty, for that matter; not lacking for this era of Miles, but could use some more, if it's good)

Everything from that era is good, for Pete Cosey as much as (if not more than, sometimes) for Miles. I have that concert under the title Another Unity.

First clip from the Cheadle bio-pic:
http://www.indiewire.com/article/don-cheadle-tries-to-hit-the-right-notes-in-new-clip-from-nyff-closer-miles-ahead-20151008

I'm already ia at seeing an AKG d112 bass drum microphone being used to mic a trumpet section (and several decades before that model of mic existed).

https://media4.giphy.com/media/TbGwrJaWc9fLG/200_s.gif

I hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

lol, they probably wanted that vintage ribbon mic look and that was the closest thing they had lying around.

I can't tell a whole lot from that clip, but I can't say it looks bad.

The casting still bugs me; Cheadle looks more like Sammy Davis Jr. than he does Miles. I would have preferred to see Michael Wright as Miles. But I guess it's Cheadle's project, so...

idg why anyone makes these movies, they're so pointless

I'm not big on insisting on the actor who looks the most like the subject, but Cheadle's presence/bravado might be a bit lacking.

I'd rather just watch some stock footage of real miles myself. actors playing musicians have mainly been mediocre to absolute shite in recent history.

yeah it's not exactly a rich tradition. Kurt Russell did a good Elvis and Kilmer is v funny as Jimbo but ... yeah that's all I got

Angela Bassett did a good Tina Turner

Movies about fictional musicians are nearly always superior to movies about real ones, probably because the writers can't fall back on "and THAT was the moment where THAT THING happened!" and the actors can't fall back on trying to do an impression.

the writers can't fall back on "and THAT was the moment where THAT THING happened!"

I hated this so much about that recent Brian Wilson movie

I'm not crazy about big sweeping trying-to-be-accurate biopics; much prefer either an idiosyncratic approach or a focus on a specific short time period. Not that those kinds of films don't often suck too (last days eg)

Or that horrific vh1 movie where Lennon and McCartney hang out circa mid 1970s

Whereas Five Heartbeats, the Commitments, That Thing You Do, Crazy Heart all come to mind as examples of at least decent fictional musician movies.

Movies about fictional musicians are nearly always superior to movies about real ones, probably because the writers can't fall back on "and THAT was the moment where THAT THING happened!" and the actors can't fall back on trying to do an impression.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, October 9, 2015 4:01 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not crazy about big sweeping trying-to-be-accurate biopics; much prefer either an idiosyncratic approach or a focus on a specific short time period. Not that those kinds of films don't often suck too (last days eg)

― brimstead, Friday, October 9, 2015 4:05 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

isn't this film focusing on a barely-covered period of miles' life?

nah I hate all those movies too (well, Crazy Heart was okay)

did you not like Eddie and the Cruisers

xp

isn't this film focusing on a barely-covered period of miles' life?

that clip is clearly not from the late 70s

I assume that was either from Miles Ahead or Sketches of Spain? I haven't listened to either in a while but I assume the guy at the piano is supposed to be Gil Evans.

I would guess Miles Ahead since that's also the title of the film. And it doesn't sound like Birth of the Cool.

no its porgy & bess smfh fake ass fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9qRk0ftySY

that clip is clearly not from the late 70s

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 9, 2015 4:15 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right...but movies are usually ~ 2 hours long

the movie is set in the late 70s when miles was retired, but there are flashbacks to the glory days, or something.

but movies are usually ~ 2 hours long

Miles would be better served by a 45 minute movie comprised of a single scene of him sitting in his penthouse suite with the curtains drawn snorting coke and making abusive phonecalls to his ex-wives

no its porgy & bess smfh fake ass fans

Oh. The Gil Evans records are probably the Miles I've spent the least time with other than maybe 80s Miles.

i wonder where this will rank on the jazz instrument miming scale, where Bird is on the bottom, Whiplash is very near the bottom, and Mo' Better Blues is near the top. Round Midnight has to be at the top for actually having live performances (did Kansas City as well? can't remember).

I'm not crazy about big sweeping trying-to-be-accurate biopics; much prefer either an idiosyncratic approach or a focus on a specific short time period. Not that those kinds of films don't often suck too (last days eg)

― brimstead, Friday, October 9, 2015 4:05 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

isn't this film focusing on a barely-covered period of miles' life?

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, October 9, 2015 2:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was just talking in general, i don't have an opinion on the miles movie

but i mean, yeah, that was one of the things that made me intrigued to see it

Was Round Midnight based on Bud powell or Dexter Gordon? I can't remember. It did seem like a half decent movie.

Bud Powell I guess, but Dexter Gordon starred in it.

huh never even heard of that before

i wonder where this will rank on the jazz instrument miming scale,

Cheadle actually played the trumpet in years past (no idea how serious his studies were), and he looks very convincing in the clip. Also, far more astute Miles aficionados than I have told me that Cheadle is holding the horn exactly as Miles did.