Demi Lovato

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so hot

surm, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

Tim's last few posts so otm obv. Whether the male pop star who goes there is actually gay and out is not the point?

What I love about the "bicurious" perspective of this song is that it's not, at least not for the narrator. Demi doesn't self define as bi afaik but there's no uncertainty about what the narrator wants; she comes across as someone who's probably seduced straight girls before even though she may not be out?

Like, it's not sexuality performed for anyone's gaze as Katherine pointed out. It's not straight girls dabbling in something they're not. It's not flirtation across a sexuality divide. It's something in between, it's very fluid.

I mean these are only thoughts I had after I listened to it 17 times in a rowbin a coach crossing slovenia yday, musically it's so obv the pop single of the year. Tyyyyyyype, monotony otm

lex pretend, Thursday, 6 August 2015 06:33 (eight years ago) link

i wouldn't be surprised if nick jonas takes up that task lol (xp to tim)

dyl, Thursday, 6 August 2015 06:40 (eight years ago) link

Ha I was thinking of him too. He really should given how much he's gone after the gay audience

lex pretend, Thursday, 6 August 2015 07:31 (eight years ago) link

i hope Nick is working on Demi's new album. he wrote so many of the best songs on her first album, and was the musical director on her last tour.

some dude, Thursday, 6 August 2015 07:51 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDDiqhhzbQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_cXhBy78T4

kinda two takes on the same structure, both among either act's very best songs

some dude, Thursday, 6 August 2015 07:54 (eight years ago) link

"cool for the summer" is so fucking incredible

bla.p, Thursday, 6 August 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

i can't tell why but the video for Cool for the Summer really rubs me the wrong way

Van Horn Street, Friday, 7 August 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

The video is an embarrassment of embarrassments. Song deserves better.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 August 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

Could have been just her and someone driving around the city at night, or sitting in a hotel lobby, both would have been better.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 August 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

given the subject matter it could have been a lot worse

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link

The fading "too"s and "you"s at the end of lines in the verses sounded like a familiar device, but I couldn't quite put a finger on it. Then I realized it's a total Gregg Alexander/Danielle Brisebois/New Radicals thing. Automatically makes me like it 25% more.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2015 05:31 (eight years ago) link

omg i am going to listen to Skyscraper now

the other day i heard another one from that album i think, pure Broadway beauty

surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 05:40 (eight years ago) link

broadway baby must be the name of a song somewhere btw

surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 05:41 (eight years ago) link

thank you!

surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 05:49 (eight years ago) link

np, just surprise someone could know the phrase "broadway baby" and not immediately follow it up in one's mind with "...walking off my tired feet"

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 10 August 2015 05:52 (eight years ago) link

you'd be surprised by all the things i don't know tbh.

surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 05:53 (eight years ago) link

it's kind of upsetting that i prolly wdn't be able to sing a single Demi Lovato song at karaoke, she's just not quite in my range

surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 05:56 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Presented without comment.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 September 2015 01:49 (eight years ago) link

a teensy comment might help me have an inkling of what the hell this is

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 12 September 2015 03:49 (eight years ago) link

Demi Lovato Admits Love For Those Mug Cupcakes People Periodically Claim Are Good Online

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 12 September 2015 03:50 (eight years ago) link

Oh wow. I shouldn't be laughing this loudly at 12am, but WOW @ her response!

Cousin Slappy, Saturday, 12 September 2015 07:22 (eight years ago) link

Typical media "gotcha" question. Would it have been so hard to say "food"?

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 12 September 2015 07:50 (eight years ago) link

i really like "confident"

slothroprhymes, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Cool For The Summer and Confident are great singles but this album is a real slog.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah both this and the selena gomez album were big disappointments. brilliant lead singles, was ready for them to step up and make some really interesting pop albums...instead we get generic, bland titles and incoherent singles-plus-filler

lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

oh dearie me

in any event, i enjoyed confident even though it's kinda sorta really uneven & idk what she or even her label was thinking having iggy azalea slither onto a song, though the presence of nu-dubstep production would seem to indicate the answer is being notably behind the times on a general cultural level.

the singles are tremendous, liked "stone cold," "yes" and "wildfire" beyond that, rest of it i can take or leave (minus the iggy feature, which is execrable)

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

i read the pieces mocking the iggy feature before i heard it and sort of rolled my eyes at everyone kicking an easy target yet again but then i heard it and my jaw dropped at how terrible it was

lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link

I really like "Cool for the Summer" except for the "die for each other" line which seems completely out of place.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

xp lol yea, i wouldve given it the benefit of the doubt if it'd been passable (like, i can tolerate her on "problem" bc its not bad enough to undo the song) but...it is not.

i did laugh at her referring to nick young as a king, thats prob the nicest thing anyone's said about him

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Spencer, having a gay relationship under multople jurisdictions right now is essentially being willing to die for each other. The melodrama is right for the song

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link

Interesting, but in that case, the song title is out of place - who would die for a summer fling?

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 03:49 (eight years ago) link

I like the "die for each other" line because I like think of it as a figure of speech ...even though I know it probably isn't used that way.

daavid, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 04:10 (eight years ago) link

an overly exaggerated figure of speech, I mean, like bff.

daavid, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 04:11 (eight years ago) link

"die for each other" is one of the best lines in the song because it brings this manic Spring Breakers aspect of partying in the summer into focus, it gives it an earnest YOLOness, making the memories of our lives having feelings amidst the decadence etc

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 28 October 2015 05:32 (eight years ago) link

Interesting, but in that case, the song title is out of place - who would die for a summer fling?

no the point is that you can be killed for a summer fling. it's about conveying the inherent and not even slightly exaggerated risk.

and also yeah karl otm

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 09:12 (eight years ago) link

Spencer, having a gay relationship under multople jurisdictions right now is essentially being willing to die for each other. The melodrama is right for the song

Whoa whoa whoa. I don't remotely question your underlying premise here. But you are giving the lyric for this song a lot more credit that it deserves.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 12:30 (eight years ago) link

yes, karl otm. I'm changing my argument to what karl said.

daavid, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1352662289l/11289919.jpg

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

But you are giving the lyric for this song a lot more credit that it deserves.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do tell me exactly what the writer told you the intention was! or perhaps demi told you exactly how she interpreted it

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

I really like "Cool for the Summer" except for the "die for each other" line which seems completely out of place.

― Spencer Chow,

c'mon the whole point of these immersive crushes is that for a few weeks you think you'd die for each other!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

You guys need to chill. Her artpop could mean anything!

Cousin Slappy, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

lex, the likelihood that "Die die each other" is about anxiety related to "having a gay relationship under multiple jurisdictions" is only slightly better than "Got a taste for the cherry/I just want to take a bite" being a reference to a severe case of prunusmania.

I'm not trying to discount the resonance this song may have to gay or bisexual listeners. I think it's brave on a number of levels. But I also think karl's theory seems a lot more likely.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

demis twitter game has been pretty good recently

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nxd, Friday, 24 June 2016 08:50 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

demi's new single to be released tomorrow is produced by pop & oak?

The countdown begins #SorryNotSorryMidnight pic.twitter.com/gRPLFtEPtp

— Demi Lovato (@ddlovato) July 10, 2017

dyl, Monday, 10 July 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

i really like this song

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

now payback is a bad bitch

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

single is great but album is a really harsh listen, "Daddy Issues" is very o_0

boxedjoy, Sunday, 12 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link


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