Demi Lovato

Years & Years kind of did in England ("Shine").

I wouldn't call Ollie "hot" but to each their own.

ok important update: i just to a good friend and colleague who is head over feels for Katy Perry, and loves this song. she agrees it's a rip off KP but it's all she listens to. this news might prompt me to give it a 4th listen.

hah head over feels

lol i really need to watch my grammar

"head over feels" is a great description. It is now officially entered into my vocabulary.

Katy and Demi released their first hit albums the same summer and have been mining the same basic post-Kelly Clarkson aesthetic ever since. only time Demi really went too far outside her comfort zone was the clubby Timbaland stuff on the 3rd album imo.

xp i'm so glad!

I tend to choose head over feels too iirc.

"shine" isn't explicitly or even implicitly gay enough to qualify i think xp, this is like saying sam smith has been releasing singles about gay flings just b/c you can catch like half a second of an arm that looks male in the music video for "stay with me"

Also I specifically mean a straight male pop star doing a song that's like "don't tell your mother but let's have bro-jobs all summer".

so hot

Tim's last few posts so otm obv. Whether the male pop star who goes there is actually gay and out is not the point?

What I love about the "bicurious" perspective of this song is that it's not, at least not for the narrator. Demi doesn't self define as bi afaik but there's no uncertainty about what the narrator wants; she comes across as someone who's probably seduced straight girls before even though she may not be out?

Like, it's not sexuality performed for anyone's gaze as Katherine pointed out. It's not straight girls dabbling in something they're not. It's not flirtation across a sexuality divide. It's something in between, it's very fluid.

I mean these are only thoughts I had after I listened to it 17 times in a rowbin a coach crossing slovenia yday, musically it's so obv the pop single of the year. Tyyyyyyype, monotony otm

i wouldn't be surprised if nick jonas takes up that task lol (xp to tim)

Ha I was thinking of him too. He really should given how much he's gone after the gay audience

i hope Nick is working on Demi's new album. he wrote so many of the best songs on her first album, and was the musical director on her last tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDDiqhhzbQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_cXhBy78T4

kinda two takes on the same structure, both among either act's very best songs

"cool for the summer" is so fucking incredible

i can't tell why but the video for Cool for the Summer really rubs me the wrong way

The video is an embarrassment of embarrassments. Song deserves better.

Could have been just her and someone driving around the city at night, or sitting in a hotel lobby, both would have been better.

given the subject matter it could have been a lot worse

The fading "too"s and "you"s at the end of lines in the verses sounded like a familiar device, but I couldn't quite put a finger on it. Then I realized it's a total Gregg Alexander/Danielle Brisebois/New Radicals thing. Automatically makes me like it 25% more.

omg i am going to listen to Skyscraper now

the other day i heard another one from that album i think, pure Broadway beauty

broadway baby must be the name of a song somewhere btw

uh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3OEXQ8BR58

thank you!

np, just surprise someone could know the phrase "broadway baby" and not immediately follow it up in one's mind with "...walking off my tired feet"

you'd be surprised by all the things i don't know tbh.

it's kind of upsetting that i prolly wdn't be able to sing a single Demi Lovato song at karaoke, she's just not quite in my range

Presented without comment.

a teensy comment might help me have an inkling of what the hell this is

Demi Lovato Admits Love For Those Mug Cupcakes People Periodically Claim Are Good Online

Oh wow. I shouldn't be laughing this loudly at 12am, but WOW @ her response!

Typical media "gotcha" question. Would it have been so hard to say "food"?

i really like "confident"

Cool For The Summer and Confident are great singles but this album is a real slog.

yeah both this and the selena gomez album were big disappointments. brilliant lead singles, was ready for them to step up and make some really interesting pop albums...instead we get generic, bland titles and incoherent singles-plus-filler

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2015/10/27/27-demi-lovato.w529.h793.jpg

oh dearie me

in any event, i enjoyed confident even though it's kinda sorta really uneven & idk what she or even her label was thinking having iggy azalea slither onto a song, though the presence of nu-dubstep production would seem to indicate the answer is being notably behind the times on a general cultural level.

the singles are tremendous, liked "stone cold," "yes" and "wildfire" beyond that, rest of it i can take or leave (minus the iggy feature, which is execrable)

i read the pieces mocking the iggy feature before i heard it and sort of rolled my eyes at everyone kicking an easy target yet again but then i heard it and my jaw dropped at how terrible it was

I really like "Cool for the Summer" except for the "die for each other" line which seems completely out of place.

xp lol yea, i wouldve given it the benefit of the doubt if it'd been passable (like, i can tolerate her on "problem" bc its not bad enough to undo the song) but...it is not.

i did laugh at her referring to nick young as a king, thats prob the nicest thing anyone's said about him

Spencer, having a gay relationship under multople jurisdictions right now is essentially being willing to die for each other. The melodrama is right for the song

Interesting, but in that case, the song title is out of place - who would die for a summer fling?

I like the "die for each other" line because I like think of it as a figure of speech ...even though I know it probably isn't used that way.

an overly exaggerated figure of speech, I mean, like bff.

"die for each other" is one of the best lines in the song because it brings this manic Spring Breakers aspect of partying in the summer into focus, it gives it an earnest YOLOness, making the memories of our lives having feelings amidst the decadence etc

Interesting, but in that case, the song title is out of place - who would die for a summer fling?

no the point is that you can be killed for a summer fling. it's about conveying the inherent and not even slightly exaggerated risk.

and also yeah karl otm

Spencer, having a gay relationship under multople jurisdictions right now is essentially being willing to die for each other. The melodrama is right for the song