the new USA show MR. ROBOT: the rise of Rami Malek and the inexplicable solidness of Christian Slater

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Well that was quite ruthless and brutal but a very good episode.

xelab, Thursday, 30 July 2015 09:17 (eight years ago) link

Been enjoying the songs that they've chosen from MOR or whatever background. Neil Diamond If You Go Away & the latest one opening with Nancy & Lee's Some Velvet Morning. Hadn't heard the Diamond before but I did recognise he source and the Nancy & Lee is a song I love but never know how many people know.

Not sure what else there is of that sort. Will probably have to rewatch the series at some point. Especially as the 1st 2 were in a format that my computer was struggling with.

Durdenisms of the episode, chance appearance of somebody sitting on a set of stairs at a crucial moment?

I just think the Swedes area pair of psychos, the embodiment of that purple people school that was being touted before the most recent recession.

Stevolende, Thursday, 30 July 2015 09:59 (eight years ago) link

this was so good! wow. it is also kind of as credible as it could possibly be when pitching nerd vs tough guy & feeding him lines about making the best move.

not foreshadowing this episode for anyone who hasn't seen it yet but just in general i am o_o

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 30 July 2015 10:26 (eight years ago) link

Wellick freaking out while his wife snacked in the foreground was a killer shot, this ep was beautifully directed

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link

Was trying to work out what she was eating. was she eating something normal in an odd way or was it a swedish delicacy?

Stevolende, Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

hey what do you think is their Long Term Goal

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

try to take over the world?

Number None, Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

but where are we going to get a mini-pack of red vines and two tons of ball bearings at this time of night?

where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

this is shot so beautifully. worth it for that alone.

Spottie, Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

this is getting harder to watch because of the tyler durden problem. otherwise, a+ still.

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

Jesus fuck, this episode. Gah.

the lungs of either a horse or a human baby (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2015 03:05 (eight years ago) link

just watched it. aw, mannnnnn

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 31 July 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

incredible episode. just brutal, though.

preview for next ep seems to give further indication mr robot is not a hallucination - scenes w just him and no other character

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Friday, 31 July 2015 03:16 (eight years ago) link

can't wait to see fuck

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 31 July 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

that came out wrong

you know what i mean

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 31 July 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

do i ever

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 31 July 2015 04:47 (eight years ago) link

<3 this show. there's been a need for more decent hacker lore like this.

also their website is cute: http://www.whoismrrobot.com/

'420' is the only unlisted command i could find, and i wonder if there are other easter eggs.

davey, Saturday, 1 August 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link

jesus fuck

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 1 August 2015 07:06 (eight years ago) link

that opening ;_;

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 6 August 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link

nervous to watch

last week was broots

davey, Thursday, 6 August 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link

this one was kinda ehh, obviously a stopgap episode. I really hated the scene of Elliott visualizing people's flaws as literal signs.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 August 2015 04:11 (eight years ago) link

of all the Big Talky Scenes the only ones that really landed for me were Colby being gross and Elliott's confession at the end

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 August 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

between the colby blowjob threat thing and what wellick ends up doing, I can't believe this show gets away with what it does sometimes on basic cable

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 6 August 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link

not to mention using that fka twigs song in that situation is...an interesting and fucked up transgressive choice

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 6 August 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

the plotting has been bizarre thanks to that month timejump. Why has the malicious Allsafe hacker guy just been sitting on his hands? Why do they still care about the Dark Army if the window for their op closed long ago?

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 August 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link

This is the best thing on TV right now which isn't at all what I was expecting when I initially read about it. Malek is excellent and another thing I love about it is the location shooting, some of the best realness since The Sopranos there.

xelab, Thursday, 6 August 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

wellick thing was unbearable & kinda depressing territory for this show

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 6 August 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

Yeah -- unpleasant, and also made no sense except I guess to show how unhinged he is. Clearly not part of a well-thought-of scheme. My wife's comment was, "I hope they start adding some dudes to the body count."

well-thought-out, I mean.

i think it worked as a logical and repellent progression of wellick's obvious psychopathy; i mean he was (and maybe still is) paying a homeless man to take beatings as an outlet for his impotent corporate rage.

BUT. it's thoroughly ugly not only because it's an act of sickening misogyny but because his stated motivation - gaining a high but not that high corporate gig - is so penny-ante compared to whatever everyone else on the show, good, bad or in-between, is seeking. which might be the point? idk.

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 6 August 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

the american psycho thread is good
the "elliott is falling apart" thread is good
the "we're different types o' gals but we're gonna change the world" thread is a little off but it's interesting
the whole Evil Corp (I cringe every time) / corporate lawsuit thread is occasionally eh but generally pretty good
all the gangster shit has been good
everything involving one-on-one with christian slater has been the overwhelming low point of the program and i'm including the cialis ads

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 04:13 (eight years ago) link

so that's not a bad twist

where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Thursday, 13 August 2015 03:12 (eight years ago) link

it was good, and heartbreaking

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 13 August 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

yeah i think it's about addiction

nose, Friday, 14 August 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link

so that's not a bad twist

Exactly what I just said. We just watched this episode, and as it was all falling apart/coming together at the end I was dreading some cheap reveal, but it stuck the landing. Recontextualizes everything, but not in some "it was all a dream" way.

http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/mr-robot-twist-omg.html

But among all the surprises in the episode, one stood out as the most surprising, and that was the sense that the show might actually be able to pull this off.

hm, i think they did! it also explains the hacker chick's manic pixie dreamgirl attitude as more sensible given the new relationships of the characters.
so elliot himself is a hacked program of sorts? that's where they're going here?

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 August 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link

i agree that this is smarter than it originally seemed, maybe moreso than anything I've watched since breaking bad (which Esmail is visually cribbing from).
Has anyone seen his feature film 'Comet'? Should I try it?

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 August 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

happy with this twist and loved the camera-shake moment

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

After we watched this week's episode, I told my gf about the theory that Mr. Robot was another personality of Elliot and she wasn't buying it so we put on another random old episode to kinda watch it in the background with that theory in mind. And I didn't see anything that refuted it. But the more interesting thing to me was seeing the scenes with Elliot and <REDACTED> and realizing how much more sense those scenes make in the context of the newly-revealed twist. This is clearly a show I'm going to have to rewatch as they've been doing a lot of shit on the sly that I know I've overlooked on my first viewing.

Grilled Floam In A Gak Reduction (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

I still think/hope Mr. Robot is a real person, his stepfather or something

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 August 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

heavy spoilers of course
http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/mr-robot-ends-and-elliot-begins.html

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 16 August 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

so there it is

tbh I'm sure some will think, ultimately, that the twist was predictable or w/e but I think it's more in the execution, and it's been wonderfully executed bc you care (imo) more about the characters and their emotional truths more than you do the mechanics of the plot, and that's the truest sign of great or near-great art.

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 20 August 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link

I doubt it'll happen bc the Emmys are dumb as shit but really hope rami malek gets a best actor in a drama nom. frankie shaw as shayla def deserves supporting as well. (carly chaikin as darlene has enough scenes to be up for best actress in a drama but isn't quite as good as shaw

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 20 August 2015 03:39 (eight years ago) link

yeah i thought this was really well done, & ended up being something different from the obvious & pretty-ominous-seeming comparison it seemed headed toward (nb i think the music cue was kind of unforgivable but that's different). like we were credibly inside his delusion & there's a sort of formal accuracy to the sense in which that's a thin membrane we repeatedly cross over.

hadn't realised there was another episode next week, hyped.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:33 (eight years ago) link

i was probably as anti-durden as anyone but i think they basically made this work.
still would've preferred an earlier giveaway as it's a bit anticlimactic

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 August 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

Yeah been wondering if it is 10 episodes or longer. & is this it? Is it likely to be able to come back for more?

Just saw something that could have been developed into another story arc but probably not going to be explored in that way any further than it has been.
10 does seem neat.

Stevolende, Thursday, 20 August 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

10 eps so next week is the last - show was renewed for season 2 sometime during the premiere of the pilot.

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 20 August 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

1. can't believe they did the slowed down 90s cover song hacky bullshit. also the obvious nod to fight club was hacky af.
2. angela's plotline is the exact trope that they are making fun of in wet hot american summer with garafalo's plotline.

chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

i read an interview with the guy where he says season two is where it pops off, obviously this is sensible self-protective behaviour but the reality of the new arrangement is a pretty established framework. something that i missed in this episode, not really to its detriment bc it's doing other stuff, is just the thrill of a super-tight procedural, which most episodes of this have; the first five or six, tracking the forward momentum of a plan & its obstacles, were so satisfying, & i feel like it has pretty good prospects if it's able to just plot convoluted, contemporary espionage drama for a few seasons

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link


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