Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

But yeah, being against hunting and ok with eating meat seems like inexcusable moral stupidity to me. "But hunting is for sport, that's so CRUEL...OM NOM NOM BACOOOOOON!"

dont let the facts get in the way of a good public internet shaming

Last time I checked, pigs weren't endangered.

as a species or individually

pigs endangering others is what this thread is about

hey yes sorry this discussion shouldn't be itt, sorry for my part in it, can be carried on @ Hunting if anyone wants to

lol forks

hahaha forks

(btw lions aren't endangered either fwiw)

yeah but they are classified vulnerable and poaching is still illegal

in any case i'm not completely sure conservation biology is any more relevant to the debate over police brutality than it is to the debate over abortion just to mention the most high profile case of concern trolling over ppl being outraged over a poaching.

https://i.imgur.com/IP9s9AX.png

it's funny because it's a riff on the dehumanization and brutality of a suppressed people through a topical point

you got it dude!

Please autoreplace "Detroit L----" with "Detroit Hatcats"

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/30/us/police-videos-race.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

a p. straightforward roundup of recent video-captured police killings, w/ links to associated stories, ongoing coverage, etc.

but it includes a couple i personally hadn't seen being talked about -

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/17/us/killing-in-washington-state-offers-ferguson-moment-for-hispanics.html

police shooting antonio zambrano-montes in pasco, wa (a town somewhat like ferguson, half hispanic but still dominated by an older white power structure), when he clearly had hands up and was cornered by multiple officers, after he threw rocks at the cops. the investigation by the prosecutors found that he was 'likely holding a rock' when he was shot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/16/us/video-of-2013-police-shooting-of-unarmed-man-renews-familiar-questions.html

gardena, ca police shooting ricardo diaz-zeferino (who died) and eutiquio acevedo mendez (who was wounded), a couple years ago. prosecutors suppressed the video but it was just recently released after a federal court order. the officers suspected the victims of having stolen a bike which actually belonged to a brother of one of the victims, which they themselves were out looking for. one of the victims wasn't keeping his hands in the air and following the (multiple, conflicting) police orders, so they opened fire.

asshole officer harassing a *passenger* in this 2014 video identified as tensing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=470&v=gBAqxiAKh6A

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/5-black-women-have-been-found-dead-jail-last-month

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=35725305&nid=148&title=police-fatally-shoot-logan-man-during-standoff

Tried to find an article on this that doesn't include the video: http://www.ibtimes.com/staten-island-man-plans-sue-police-amid-claims-they-beat-him-while-hurling-homophobic-2034603

http://revolution-news.com/salinas-california-officers-beat-mentally-ill-man-with-batons/

My hometown :(

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/us/training-officers-to-shoot-first-and-he-will-answer-questions-later.html?referrer=

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abt the pseudoscientist paid defense expert teaching police how to defend, basically, any shooting

I'm generally a "systems not individuals" guy but some motherfuckers are just evil.

or both

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/04/alabama-police-officer-murder-black-man-self-defense?CMP=share_btn_tw

Everyone should watch this:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/08/baltimore_ex_cop_discusses_police_violence_toward_young_black_men.html

http://jezebel.com/cops-forcibly-search-womans-vagina-after-smelling-weed-1723207106

https://soundcloud.com/wondalandarts/hell-you-talmbout

That monae track is the first protest song i could imagine marching too in years.

fuck this is powerful. listening to it again, actually crying.

yeah damn that's heavy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhBgAPyLE6I

https://thejammingnachos.bandcamp.com/track/it-could-have-been-me

Maybe should spin this off into a modern protest song thread?

(that's two different tracks btw)

http://jezebel.com/cops-forcibly-search-womans-vagina-after-smelling-weed-1723207106

― j., Monday, August 10, 2015 5:37 PM (5 days ago)

charges dropped

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article31079991.html

http://www.psmag.com/health-and-behavior/even-if-the-police-dont-kill-me-a-lifetime-of-preparing-for-them-to-just-might

Very glad to have read that. Thanks.

I can't comprehend how you let a diabetic fade out, collapse, and die in front of you because you won't give them insulin. Like literally what is the internal monologue here.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/family-of-diabetic-black-man-says-he-died-after-a-jail-refused-to-give-him-insulin/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/08/cop_shot_himself_and_blamed_a_black_driver_police_officer_kelly_stewart.html

the victim is the cousin of Boots Riley from The Coup.

http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

this was just launched, don't know much about it yet except that supposedly @deray is behind it somehow

This looks great.

Mistrial in the Randall Kerrick police shooting case: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mistrial-declared-police-officers-manslaughter-trial-33235595

Protests beginning right now in uptown Charlotte: http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/local/randall-kerrick-trial/2015/08/21/kerrick-trial-protesters-blocking-4th-street/32137825/

I mean, what the hell, a cop can't even get convicted when his own department turns against him:

Following the shooting, the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department released a statement calling the shooting unlawful. "The evidence revealed that Mr. Ferrell did advance on Officer Kerrick and the investigation showed that the subsequent shooting of Mr. Ferrell was excessive," police said in a statement the day of the shooting. "Our investigation has shown that Officer Kerrick did not have a lawful right to discharge his weapon during this encounter."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/politics/in-rare-case-fbi-tries-to-fire-agent-who-shot-queens-suspect.html?_r=0

For the first time in decades, the F.B.I. is trying to fire an agent for intentionally shooting a suspect, after finding that the agent violated bureau policy when he wounded an unarmed man who had apparently helped break into his Lexus outside his home in Queens.

The agent, who was off duty, fired at the man from a second-story window, hitting him in the back.

O_O

the shooting took place a few years ago, but still

a rare bit of good news:

Judge overhauls troubled Ferguson, Missouri, court

A new municipal judge in Ferguson, Missouri, on Monday ordered sweeping changes to court practices in response to a scathing Justice Department report following the shooting of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown a year ago.

Municipal Court Judge Donald McCullin, appointed in June, ordered that all arrest warrants issued in the city before Dec. 31, 2014 be withdrawn.

Defendants will receive new court dates along with options for disposing of their cases, such as payment plans or community service. Fines may be commuted for indigent people.

The changes come five months after the U.S. Department of Justice strongly criticized city leaders in its report, saying the police force and court worked together to exploit people in order to raise revenue.

The Justice Department specifically said Ferguson's municipal court practices caused significant harm to many

people with cases pending as minor municipal code violations turned into multiple arrests, jail time, and payments

that exceeded the cost of the original ticket many times over.

McCullin, who is black, ordered instead that if an arrest warrant is issued for a minor traffic violation, the defendant will not be incarcerated, but will be released on their own recognizance and given another court date, the city said.

"These changes should continue the process of restoring confidence in the Court... and giving many residents a fresh start," said McCullin in a statement.

He added that many people who have had drivers licenses suspended will be able to obtain them and start driving again. In the past, the city's director of revenue would suspend a defendant's driver's license solely for failing to appear in court or failing to pay a fine.

McCullin replaced Judge Ronald Brockmeyer who resigned after being criticized in the Justice Department report.

"It is meaningful and will have a real impact on the lives of many," said St. Louis-area lawyer Brendan Roediger, who has helped represent some protesters complaining of mistreatment by police and courts in Ferguson.

"That being said, payment plans and community service do not solve racial profiling or excessive fines," Roediger said.

A two-fer from CNN today:

Black driver tailed for two minutes, pulled over for making 'direct eye contact'

Man with hands raised shot to death by Texas sheriff's deputies, incident captured on cell phone video

"This is a very unique situation where we actually have the shooting on video," LaHood said. "That gives us a whole different perspective that we've never had to deal with before."

i'll bet

"Had to deal with before". Well if that isn't super creepy.

the thing that is disheartening to me is that these on-camera recordings of police misconduct are getting more frequent and comprehensive as vigilant civilians are better prepared to start the camera rolling immediately. so the footage is of better quality, and more of the events leading up are captured, but the response of the general public and police of course hasn't been proportionate.

No matter how much of the incident you get on video, someone will insinuate that there was a portion left out which would have "explained why the cops had to use necessary force", and this gets believed more easily than it should because of confirmation bias. it's nothing new, of course, but they always hinge on the one element that is hazy in the video or unclear and make a narrative out of that. like DJP and others said upthread, it's the sad query, having to ask "is he going to be convicted" despite damning, unambiguous video evidence.

Not that the videos of these incidents haven't been effective in gradually swaying public perception or even in some cases have resulted in action from police forces. and that it might be subconsciously influencing cop behavior in these situations if they aren't wearing body cams but feel they might be videotaped. But still such a long, long way to go.

Many police departments also use the false equation gimmick where they deliberately focus the debate solely on whether the victim was resisting or not, to slyly manipulate the discussion to where all participants accept the default assumption "mild resistance = license to shoot", and thus the police just need to prove he was resisting to legitimize the shooting. When that default assumption is bogus to begin with and should be questioned by all - most resisting obv doesn't require lethal force.

I mean, when I was 16 I saw a man who was hopped up on several drugs put a bowling alley employee in a chokehold unprovoked. The cops were there in minutes and he was just not going down, despite macings and baton strikes, and he continued to get up and squirm away. Despite his resistance, the cops managed to subdue and arrest him without the use of lethal force. Some of the 'resisting arrest' incidents that have resulted in shootings equated to resistance far more mild and unthreatening than that afternoon.

Hoping this video retrieves the right result - if a civilian is giving himself up to surrender and you have trained weapons on him, that line of 'we felt threatened' kind of flies out the window.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/cop-shot-responding-to-wrong-house-gbi-leading-inv/nnWKr/