D'Angelo - Black Messiah (2014)

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i will be seeing him at First Ave :)))))

lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 24 July 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

i recorded it, looking forward to watching!

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

he's not a very good interview, sadly.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

:(

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

listening to this right now.
really love going back to albums like this after the hype has subsided and I can just really vibe out to this really cool, loose funky oddball R&B album without worrying about if it's a major "statement" or milestone or w/e

so many cool little details all over this

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

still listen to this all the time

expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link

Yeah it hasn't faded for me at all.

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

also, this is more urgent for me because of what's going on in Minneapolis right now but....

"All we wanted was a chance to talk
'stead we only got outlined in chalk"

from The Charade is like an all-time lyric, such economy, like on par with any Dylan or Woody Guthrie protest lyric ever.

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

otm

Evan R, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

all things considered this is probly my favourite album of the last 12 months

when's international me day? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

same here, and it's had some very strong competition

balls, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

I'm not sure anything else even comes close

Evan R, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

some of the songs dont really work for me but yeah an incredible record

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 November 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

while there are definitely some songs that are standouts i guess i tend to just vibe out to the whole thing, it's a very cool sound world to be in

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

this and the Kendrick album been in p much constant rotation for me all year, a very complimentary pair

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

yah also has made me go back to both the New Amerykah albums by Badu which seem a piece with both those as well

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

So who of the professionals or p&j voters among us is including this in their best of 2015 albums?

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

I've been posting stupid shit about Neil Young and gangster rap on this site for years but I still don't get to vote in Pazz & Jop

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

this and the Kendrick album been in p much constant rotation for me all year, a very complimentary pair

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:13 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yah also has made me go back to both the New Amerykah albums by Badu which seem a piece with both those as well

― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:25 PM (33 minutes ago)

ditto to both of these. partly i know i'm just waiting for badu to release another album already but it meshes well w/ black messiah and tupab.

balls, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

i listen to this all the time still but i hate The Door lol

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

who of the professionals or p&j voters among us is including this in their best of 2015 albums?

I can't bring myself to do it; too OCD about the "2015 albums have to have been released in 2015" thing. I feel like it'd also seem like a slight to everything that came out this year if my 2015 list were topped by a 2014 album

Evan R, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

it won last year right?

balls, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

I love this album so much, ums otm I play this all the time (voodoo too tbh)

marcos, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

I really dug this on first listen but honestly the more I've lived with it the better its gotten.

and yah, UMS told me I needed to go back to those Badu records and I'm glad I did.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

So who of the professionals or p&j voters among us is including this in their best of 2015 albums?

Had to compile my 2015 Top 10 for MOJO last month, and Black Messiah was on the list of albums we'd reviewed in 2015, and I was like, some great, great albums this year but yes, Black Messiah is still the best album of that bunch.

I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 10:51 (eight years ago) link

I absolutely love just about over a third of this (The Charade, Sugah Daddy, Really Love, Betray My Heart, The Door, Back To The Future). The other parts I find either over-busy or a little bit too backgroundy for me to truly love.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:00 (eight years ago) link

yeah i voted for Black Messiah in P&J in 2014 but not for my local paper's year-end list that's due in November, and as i do the paper's list this year i'm sticking to 2015 releases. i'm not really worried about this album being overlooked!

The Cuddling Of The American Mind (some dude), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:23 (eight years ago) link

I've thought about including it because I didn't last year (I've a vivid memory of downloading and listening to it on my way to jury duty on Dec. 15). I included Beyonce's album on my 2014 ballot. But I don't wanna deny a good album a spot.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

it should still be on ballots (speaking as someone who has nothing to do with P&J). tail end of a year has always basically meant the next year, for these kinds of things.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link

It depends on the critic. If I've been assigned to review it, thus forcing me to concentrate for a deadline's sake, I'd have included it. I wasn't, so I absorbed it in leisurely fashion over the holiday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link

even before Beyonce and D'Angelo dropped their buzzer beaters, i've always been pretty big on keeping my ears open to December releases on my year-end lists, some of my favorite albums in recent memory (including Last Train To Paris) got in under the wire on my lists that way. and that's partly because i know i'll have no desire to fit them into the next year's list.

The Cuddling Of The American Mind (some dude), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

depends when you (have to) make your EOY lists, right? most critics will prob submit multiple ones (i've submitted a couple already) but i don't really consider them ~official until my own final one on 31 dec. then that's it, done, not revisiting or thinking or carrying over

lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Coming back to this for the first time in a while, enjoying it even more now that the critical buzz haze has dissipated. The arrangements and production are just fucking masterful.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 9 January 2016 04:45 (eight years ago) link

yea I've been playing this a lot lately, it's really really good

marcos, Saturday, 9 January 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Also the rhythm section is so fucking sick, like on par with prime motown, stax, James Brown band, p much any groove rhythm section.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 11 January 2016 02:21 (eight years ago) link

could see it wind up being my album of the decade

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2016 03:39 (eight years ago) link

It's not as good as Voodoo but very few albums are.

gaz "puffy" coombes (The Reverend), Friday, 15 January 2016 04:54 (eight years ago) link

literally none, imho

art baengels (monotony), Friday, 15 January 2016 05:04 (eight years ago) link

IDK, it's such a different feeling album to me, almost hard to compare

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2016 05:09 (eight years ago) link

This is my 2nd favorite album ever.

billstevejim, Friday, 15 January 2016 06:32 (eight years ago) link

Voodoo is my 2nd fav ever

Spottie, Friday, 15 January 2016 06:43 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

<3

j., Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:54 (seven years ago) link

yup

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link

Clicked on this hoping that Trump spurred him to finish his next album.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Chris Dave, the drummer on this album, has made an album of his own which will be out on Blue Note next month.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 8 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

hmmm, i know Questlove, james gadson, and chris dave all played on Black Messiah, but i've never seen a track by track breakdown on who plays on what - until now.

https://storify.com/amaah/black-messiah-liner-notes

ain’t that easy - james gadson
1000 deaths - questlove
the charade - questlove
sugah daddy - gadson
really love - started with questlove, ended with gadson
back to the future, pt 1 - questlove
till it’s done (tutu) - unclear?
prayer - chris dave
betray my heart - questlove
the door - d’angelo
back to the future (pt 2) - questlove
another life - questlove

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 December 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

Tutu is unquestionably Questlove on drums.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Among other things (just the sound, and the press roll at the beginning), I think of that three note fill (that starts on the 4 and has a flam at the beginning) as one of his signature licks.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

has a new song on the RDR2 soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obJuKmMjFG4

Number None, Monday, 29 October 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link


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