is banning posters for beefing with mods really what we want to do?

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It's disingenuous here to pretend that Stet is "a mod", and not, like the guy who devotes a fuckload of his own time and I believe also some of his money to keep this place going. I think this was possibly a straw-that-broke-the-camels-back moment after what's been quite a stressful few days when it comes to admin-ing this place. Possibly you guys underestimate quite how wearying it is to have to deal with pointlessly petulant little tantrums like this for a prolonged period of time. Personally I just walk away for a while when I get into that state but everyone has their personal sanity threshold and that is sometimes exceeded.

At the end of the day, it's a privilege and not a right to post here and Stet can ban who he wants IMO, because it's very likely that the site literally wouldn't exist without him. That he pretty much never does so is because of the general patience and tolerance that makes him the right person to keep it going, considering previous site runners like Andrew an Graham have pretty much decided to kick the whole thing over whenever it got too much.

FWIW How's Life was absolutely right to come down on Deej on that thread, at a time when everyone is justifiably nervy about privacy.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

I mean call me a boy as much as you want, at least I'm not hanging out here embodying Matt Dillon in Singles when I am in reality a middle aged dude.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

Stet can ban who he wants IMO

lol

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

he didn't "have to deal with" anything!

wins, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

FWIW How's Life was absolutely right to come down on Deej on that thread, at a time when everyone is justifiably nervy about privacy.

I didn't use j0hn's name intentionally to get him caught up or whatever, I was typing on my phone in the moment and didn't think it through

There's no reason I should have been banned from that thread

― supreme problematics (D-40), Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:11 PM

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

Still hurt that I called you out on the fact that your chill cuddly stoner teen facade is slipping huh?

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:32 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol other ppl have attempted to use this attack against me too but like i get mad all the time on this website?

i feel like the whole "i totally nailed yr online persona" line of zinging is pretty overrated amongst its practitioners who generally just dont have the insight to pull it off

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

he didn't "have to deal with" anything!

Oh fuck you

stet, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

It makes sense that the least moderate group of ilx posters all agree that immoderate language should never be grounds for banning and that when the moderators try to make ilx a more moderate place they are overstepping their authority. It's almost as if they do not embrace the concept of moderation.

Aimless, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

Fuck you.

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I realise that Deej posted that by mistake, HL wasn't to have known that at the time though. People are jumpy right now for obvious reasons.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

Still hurt that I called you out on the fact that your chill cuddly stoner teen facade is slipping huh?

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:32 PM (2 minutes ago)

oh cmon stoner teen and earnest board lawyer can coexist, one of my favorite posting styles of his tbh

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

btw i agree with the mods that a temporary threadban was a justifiable call in the deej case, he was doing annoying deej stuff and recklessly realnamed someone

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

bye markers

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

i contain multitudes

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

xpost You’re gonna ban me too?

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

Enjoying the irony of how many people on this thread have FPed or SBed Deej in the past btw. At any other time a 30-day holiday from him would be seen as blessed relief.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

*casually lowers joint from lips, looks dead-eyed at judge, slow mcconaughey drawl, "objection yr modness"*

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

Keep working that "I'm not like that, you just don't have the capacity to understand me" angle as long as it makes you feel better lagoon.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

If I was still a mod, yes I would ban you.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

If banning deej for 30 days while all the rest of us get to post all we want is so upsetting to some folks, one option is shutting down the whole site for 30 days.

dart scar rashes (WilliamC), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

xpost Well you’re not, so fuck off.

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

Enjoying the irony of how many people on this thread have FPed or SBed Deej in the past btw. At any other time a 30-day holiday from him would be seen as blessed relief.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:42 PM (46 seconds ago)

i mean dude, this is why the SB/FP system was instituted, remember? so mods/admins wouldn't do this stuff?

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Keep working that "I'm not like that, you just don't have the capacity to understand me" angle as long as it makes you feel better lagoon.

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:43 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do u consider yrsef like a great student of ppl or something i was never aware this was part of yr persona

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

The fact that we've hung out IRL and that I like you does not change the fact that you are having an abusive hissy fit on grounds that have never been the modus operandi of this messageboard.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

Also notice, you're the one cursing and ranting and I'm not. Grow up.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

No thanks.

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

ppl shd be allowed to have hissy fits its ok we all do it punishing them for it just causes resentment and compounds the situation imo, mods who think putatively shd expand their horizons

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

u mean punitively

wins, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

Admins have always had the right to ban people on top of the FP system though - if some new guy turns up and drops a load of N-bombs we can tell from the 10 FPs they get in like 10mins, we're not going to wait around for them to get to 51.

This is different obviously and long-time posters usually get the benefit of the doubt. Personally I probably wouldn't have banned Deej in these circumstances but I'm going to Stet's right to withdraw access as he sees fit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

u mean punitively

― wins, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:48 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see u already knew

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

just clarifying for the others

wins, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

xxpost Anyone reasonable here would totally support a ban on the grounds of a situation you describe in your first sentence.

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

"do u consider yrsef like a great student of ppl or something i was never aware this was part of yr persona"

Hmm sounds like a question that perhaps you should be asking yourself, oh great mod psychoanalyst

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

wow i asked u first

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

lol

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

tell me who i am. i want to know myself.

an asteroid could hit the planet (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

What should happen is all the mods should stop modding and, if possible, the registration system should be set to auto-approve. Also, stet should stop maintaining the site and paying the hosting bills.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

mod thyself

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

wld be an interesting experiment tbh

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okOVxfuSYPk

a (waterface), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

if only there was some other option besides bad police and no police

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, if only

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

xpost You’re gonna ban me too?

― markers

Seems like a reasonable option atm. Just looking at your last ~20 posts, a cooling off period seems in order. Whenever one is 100% convinced that everyone else is wrong and they are just obstinately disagreeing with the truth you are shouting at them, then usually something is wrong with that picture and it's probably you.

Aimless, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

feelin jbr's decision rt now.

Cory Sklar, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

xpost I need you on my side. Please Aimless.

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

I would consider quitting too if there weren’t people here I still wanted to be around.

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

_he didn't "have to deal with" anything!_

Oh fuck you

there's no need to be rude

I just meant in the sense that a locked thread about a resolved issue didn't strictly require your attention

wins, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

Don’t you know I’m human too?

markers, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

Wins - I meant shit *like* this (of which there's been a fair bit over the last week), rather than this specific issue.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link


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