is banning posters for beefing with mods really what we want to do?

Yes, I genuinely think mods are meant to be our mothers, good read.

seems to me you can't have it both ways -- i.e. if jjustin wants to be treated like all the other posters even when he weighs in on mod stuff and be taken no differently, then you can't also say "we expect a different standard from posters when arguing about mod stuff to mods vs. other posters".

i'm fine either way tbh but pick one

There’s no such fucking rule, man.

Yeah, there is. Can't find the first place from my phone, but we've used it for years eg
a specific complaint

An open letter to ILX & mods re: an alternative to the current system

That’s insane. Seriously? People here are dicks all the time!

Good luck enforcing that rule!

this site is like 25-50% ppl being dicks

i don't think this needed a separate thread, but while we're here, i think demanding a different standard of civility for dealing with mods as opposed to other posters is a new idea and a poor precedent. with respect, like.

This is an untrue assertion. One of the reasons I quit modding is because the posting community overturned to the point where the budget-Doms who take any level of call for civility as an attack on their inailiable rights as human beings on a privately-owned message board outnumbered the people who are capable of being adults.

being a mod turned u into a rageaholic too tho

Hah confirmation bias much?

i mean its natural for ppl once given power however meager will begin to identify with that power but some ppl r prob a lil more cut out for it than others

if sarahell becomes a mod out of all of this clusterfucking it'll have been worth it imho

like for instance obvs the mod dynamic causes jj a lot of personal consternation and identity crisis but he has been almost entirely a very nice boy in his modding actions since the mod wars knocked out his more daring role models

Still hurt that I called you out on the fact that your chill cuddly stoner teen facade is slipping huh?

i'd smoke a bowl w/ lag∞n

I would watch you two doing that.

It's disingenuous here to pretend that Stet is "a mod", and not, like the guy who devotes a fuckload of his own time and I believe also some of his money to keep this place going. I think this was possibly a straw-that-broke-the-camels-back moment after what's been quite a stressful few days when it comes to admin-ing this place. Possibly you guys underestimate quite how wearying it is to have to deal with pointlessly petulant little tantrums like this for a prolonged period of time. Personally I just walk away for a while when I get into that state but everyone has their personal sanity threshold and that is sometimes exceeded.

At the end of the day, it's a privilege and not a right to post here and Stet can ban who he wants IMO, because it's very likely that the site literally wouldn't exist without him. That he pretty much never does so is because of the general patience and tolerance that makes him the right person to keep it going, considering previous site runners like Andrew an Graham have pretty much decided to kick the whole thing over whenever it got too much.

FWIW How's Life was absolutely right to come down on Deej on that thread, at a time when everyone is justifiably nervy about privacy.

I mean call me a boy as much as you want, at least I'm not hanging out here embodying Matt Dillon in Singles when I am in reality a middle aged dude.

Stet can ban who he wants IMO

lol

he didn't "have to deal with" anything!

FWIW How's Life was absolutely right to come down on Deej on that thread, at a time when everyone is justifiably nervy about privacy.

I didn't use j0hn's name intentionally to get him caught up or whatever, I was typing on my phone in the moment and didn't think it through

There's no reason I should have been banned from that thread

― supreme problematics (D-40), Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:11 PM

Still hurt that I called you out on the fact that your chill cuddly stoner teen facade is slipping huh?

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:32 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol other ppl have attempted to use this attack against me too but like i get mad all the time on this website?

i feel like the whole "i totally nailed yr online persona" line of zinging is pretty overrated amongst its practitioners who generally just dont have the insight to pull it off

he didn't "have to deal with" anything!

Oh fuck you

It makes sense that the least moderate group of ilx posters all agree that immoderate language should never be grounds for banning and that when the moderators try to make ilx a more moderate place they are overstepping their authority. It's almost as if they do not embrace the concept of moderation.

Fuck you.

Yeah I realise that Deej posted that by mistake, HL wasn't to have known that at the time though. People are jumpy right now for obvious reasons.

Still hurt that I called you out on the fact that your chill cuddly stoner teen facade is slipping huh?

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:32 PM (2 minutes ago)

oh cmon stoner teen and earnest board lawyer can coexist, one of my favorite posting styles of his tbh

btw i agree with the mods that a temporary threadban was a justifiable call in the deej case, he was doing annoying deej stuff and recklessly realnamed someone

bye markers

i contain multitudes

xpost You’re gonna ban me too?

Enjoying the irony of how many people on this thread have FPed or SBed Deej in the past btw. At any other time a 30-day holiday from him would be seen as blessed relief.

*casually lowers joint from lips, looks dead-eyed at judge, slow mcconaughey drawl, "objection yr modness"*

Keep working that "I'm not like that, you just don't have the capacity to understand me" angle as long as it makes you feel better lagoon.

If I was still a mod, yes I would ban you.

If banning deej for 30 days while all the rest of us get to post all we want is so upsetting to some folks, one option is shutting down the whole site for 30 days.

xpost Well you’re not, so fuck off.

Enjoying the irony of how many people on this thread have FPed or SBed Deej in the past btw. At any other time a 30-day holiday from him would be seen as blessed relief.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:42 PM (46 seconds ago)

i mean dude, this is why the SB/FP system was instituted, remember? so mods/admins wouldn't do this stuff?

Keep working that "I'm not like that, you just don't have the capacity to understand me" angle as long as it makes you feel better lagoon.

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:43 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do u consider yrsef like a great student of ppl or something i was never aware this was part of yr persona

The fact that we've hung out IRL and that I like you does not change the fact that you are having an abusive hissy fit on grounds that have never been the modus operandi of this messageboard.

Also notice, you're the one cursing and ranting and I'm not. Grow up.

No thanks.

ppl shd be allowed to have hissy fits its ok we all do it punishing them for it just causes resentment and compounds the situation imo, mods who think putatively shd expand their horizons

u mean punitively

Admins have always had the right to ban people on top of the FP system though - if some new guy turns up and drops a load of N-bombs we can tell from the 10 FPs they get in like 10mins, we're not going to wait around for them to get to 51.

This is different obviously and long-time posters usually get the benefit of the doubt. Personally I probably wouldn't have banned Deej in these circumstances but I'm going to Stet's right to withdraw access as he sees fit.

u mean punitively

― wins, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:48 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see u already knew

just clarifying for the others

xxpost Anyone reasonable here would totally support a ban on the grounds of a situation you describe in your first sentence.

"do u consider yrsef like a great student of ppl or something i was never aware this was part of yr persona"

Hmm sounds like a question that perhaps you should be asking yourself, oh great mod psychoanalyst

wow i asked u first