i got the impression that the italian cop left his posse to take care of jack while he contacted verger's people, and he probably delivered the "got hannibal and graham, crawford is dead" message not knowing his lieutenants were killed.
but--verger talks as if unaware that it was his mook and not hannibal that (didn't) kill jack
i read a couple of those livejournal recaps someone linked to and man, huh, people sure put a lot of effort into watching television these days
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link
bookwise i think red dragon is p bad -- does a poor job of handling dolarhyde's vaguely dis-associative / schizophrenic issues in a way that feels like i've seen/read it a million times -- though i think reading it in like 2014 probably influenced that, i think at the time it was maybe more novel
silence of the lambs is fantastic though
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 03:06 (eight years ago) link
one narrow question, one broad one:
i. why was chiyoh standing there with the gun at the end of the episode, other than to make her more of a mysterious unknowable extra factor? whom might she have shot? ii. does hannibal (the version in the show) have an ethics?
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link
just got caught up on the last two eps, this show is so funny and fun and perversewhen they cut to a toyota ad it's just so jarring
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 July 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link
The first time we see Margot we also see... the eel!!!
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 25 July 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
I notice that Will holds his fork and knife English/European style rather than American style.
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 25 July 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link
i mean, hugh dancy is english, right
man i do not like will's family much
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 26 July 2015 07:18 (eight years ago) link
oh well, 50/50 they're dead by the end
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 26 July 2015 07:19 (eight years ago) link
that was sort of a letdown, much as i enjoyed the 'three years later' title card
was hoping for a nonsensical 'we have got to stop meeting like this' at the end, tbh
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 26 July 2015 07:38 (eight years ago) link
yeah this was a really beautifully executed version of a much less interesting version of this show, I miss the complete batshitness of the first half already, though I'm sure there's great stuff to come
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 26 July 2015 08:02 (eight years ago) link
agree w/that. this is back to the semi-procedural format of the first season, almost, though still weirder in style than those early episodes. and the guy playing dolarhyde is really good.
― extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Sunday, 26 July 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
I am glad Scott Thompson is back
― Upright Mammal (mh), Sunday, 26 July 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link
Scott Thompson funny but terrible wooden actor. I'm glad they're in "Red Dragon"-land now :)
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 27 July 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
I'm watching some of the season 2 commentary, and the social worker in the horse is also the voice of Mickey Mouse???
― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link
hahaha what
― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 30 July 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0224565/?ref_=tt_cl_t9
― tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 2 August 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
He was very funny in Silicon Valley
― latebloomer, Sunday, 2 August 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
found this week's a bit boring tbh
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 2 August 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
Red Draggin'
― slam dunk, Sunday, 9 August 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link
honestly this whole back half has been pretty meh to me after the insanity of the European half. I guess it doesn't help that I just don't find Dolarhyde that interesting, at least in this incarnation. And the flashbacks seem really pointless - answering questions I didn't really care for getting the answers to.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 9 August 2015 05:17 (eight years ago) link
it just makes me want to watch Red Dragon again. the sets/staging of the dolarhyde stuff is very similar. they even got a guy that looks like ralph fiennes' stunt double to play him.
i think i'm that movie's biggest fan. so watchable! a ridiculously overqualified cast having fun in total trash, like The Paperboy but not boring.
― slam dunk, Monday, 10 August 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link
nah rewatch Manhunter
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 10 August 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link
red dragon is shockingly ok for a brett ratner movie, like it lacks all the things that make his movies awful w the exception of a few dumbing-down moments (the "sweetbreads" note that hannibal would never put in a book in the opening scene), cast is solid, even the blatant padding of hannibal's role in the story ain't bad
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 10 August 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
like I almost wonder if it was ghost-directed somehow
that said manhunter is obv a better movie just not as in sync with the hannibal canon such as it is
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 10 August 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
I like how this is going.
I forgot how freaky it is that the dude ate the painting. He ate it up! Also I remain weirded out by Bedelia.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link
I miss Alana's dresses.
― tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, but her new hair style, though.
Also she looks pretty fabulous in pant suits.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 03:28 (eight years ago) link
it's a travesty how much they've thrown this away. 10pm on saturday with no advertising or even next week previews.
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 03:49 (eight years ago) link
confession: i got 5+ episodes behind & gave up
every episode I watched this season made me feel like i had suffered a head injury, i couldn't follow what was happening :(
i will circle back eventually
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 04:11 (eight years ago) link
The second half of the season is completely different from the first, fwiw. Much more straightforward. (I vastly prefer the first half but I seem to be in the minority on this.)
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 04:13 (eight years ago) link
oh no i totally agree with that.
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 04:25 (eight years ago) link
this half is fun though
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 04:26 (eight years ago) link
I have def seen a lot of people relieved to get the "old" Hannibal back after the "pretentious/artsy" first half which I find insane. Way more into the Lynch/Greenaway/del Toro hybrid nightmare factory. I am v curious to see where these last two eps go, though.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link
batshit pt. 1 and well-executed less batshit pt. 2 are both great in their own ways, first half was way more an ambitious high-wire act. I feel less urgency with this 2nd half, like I was taking the time to watch the first half episodes right when they aired whereas now I catch up days after the fact
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 04:46 (eight years ago) link
I can definitely enjoy pt. 2 but it's a pretty, graceful version of a familiar set of ideas/relationships, whereas throughout pt. 1 I was constantly marveling at the fact that it was produced and aired at all
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 05:18 (eight years ago) link
dolarhyde in the graham's house was really excellent. great suspense setpiece. although it's one of the few times that i wish the show didn't have so much score.
― slam dunk, Thursday, 20 August 2015 02:49 (eight years ago) link
It was! I actually had to turn it off because I was watching it at night alone and it was giving me the jim jams.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 20 August 2015 03:09 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWw2drwzaes
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 August 2015 03:29 (eight years ago) link
Oh, Chilton.
― tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 23 August 2015 03:02 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/GillianA/status/637730302824026113
sez 'make sure to watch past the credits'
― j., Saturday, 29 August 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
this is still airing mid-week in canada or something and i've been cheating and downloading it
can't wait for you guys to catch up
― μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 29 August 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link
I cheated because it was pre-empted by football and there was no indication anywhere if and when they were going to air it.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Sunday, 30 August 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/29/everything-hannibal-wore-hannibal
― carl agatha, Sunday, 30 August 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link
I totally forgot Siouxsie was going to be involved.
― tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 30 August 2015 03:09 (eight years ago) link
That finale really underlined for me that 3A was sort of an insane masterpiece and 3B was an excessively fan-service-y OK thing.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 30 August 2015 03:46 (eight years ago) link
moving the Murder Husbands stuff from subtext to text cost the show a lot (for me anyway)
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 30 August 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link
I believe they call it... a mic drop.
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 30 August 2015 04:13 (eight years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/hannibal-redefined-how-we-tell-stories-on-tv.html
― j., Tuesday, 1 September 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link
that is a tremendous seitz piece
finally watched the finale. as an end to everything - which we can only assume it is at this point - it was maybe a little less than i'd hoped for but as close to a final chapter as was possible.
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
*to a proper final chapter