HANNIBAL on NBC seems amazing and therefore deserves it's own thread!

Agree re: Red Dragon, which I read recently because of this series and enjoyed. I read Silence of the Lambs in college and it scared the bejesus out of me, even though I'd already seen and developed a deep and abiding love of the movie at that point.

yeah the first i heard of him was all my fellow stephen king fan friends telling me i had to read it, it was the scariest thing they've ever read, and me being all 'i don't read stephen king anymore, i only read KAFKA now'

i got the impression that the italian cop left his posse to take care of jack while he contacted verger's people, and he probably delivered the "got hannibal and graham, crawford is dead" message not knowing his lieutenants were killed.

but--verger talks as if unaware that it was his mook and not hannibal that (didn't) kill jack

i read a couple of those livejournal recaps someone linked to and man, huh, people sure put a lot of effort into watching television these days

bookwise i think red dragon is p bad -- does a poor job of handling dolarhyde's vaguely dis-associative / schizophrenic issues in a way that feels like i've seen/read it a million times -- though i think reading it in like 2014 probably influenced that, i think at the time it was maybe more novel

silence of the lambs is fantastic though

one narrow question, one broad one:

i. why was chiyoh standing there with the gun at the end of the episode, other than to make her more of a mysterious unknowable extra factor? whom might she have shot?
ii. does hannibal (the version in the show) have an ethics?

just got caught up on the last two eps, this show is so funny and fun and perverse
when they cut to a toyota ad it's just so jarring

The first time we see Margot we also see... the eel!!!

I notice that Will holds his fork and knife English/European style rather than American style.

i mean, hugh dancy is english, right

man i do not like will's family much

oh well, 50/50 they're dead by the end

that was sort of a letdown, much as i enjoyed the 'three years later' title card

was hoping for a nonsensical 'we have got to stop meeting like this' at the end, tbh

yeah this was a really beautifully executed version of a much less interesting version of this show, I miss the complete batshitness of the first half already, though I'm sure there's great stuff to come

agree w/that. this is back to the semi-procedural format of the first season, almost, though still weirder in style than those early episodes. and the guy playing dolarhyde is really good.

I am glad Scott Thompson is back

Scott Thompson funny but terrible wooden actor. I'm glad they're in "Red Dragon"-land now :)

I'm watching some of the season 2 commentary, and the social worker in the horse is also the voice of Mickey Mouse???

hahaha what

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0224565/?ref_=tt_cl_t9

He was very funny in Silicon Valley

found this week's a bit boring tbh

Red Draggin'

honestly this whole back half has been pretty meh to me after the insanity of the European half. I guess it doesn't help that I just don't find Dolarhyde that interesting, at least in this incarnation. And the flashbacks seem really pointless - answering questions I didn't really care for getting the answers to.

it just makes me want to watch Red Dragon again. the sets/staging of the dolarhyde stuff is very similar. they even got a guy that looks like ralph fiennes' stunt double to play him.

i think i'm that movie's biggest fan. so watchable! a ridiculously overqualified cast having fun in total trash, like The Paperboy but not boring.

nah rewatch Manhunter

red dragon is shockingly ok for a brett ratner movie, like it lacks all the things that make his movies awful w the exception of a few dumbing-down moments (the "sweetbreads" note that hannibal would never put in a book in the opening scene), cast is solid, even the blatant padding of hannibal's role in the story ain't bad

like I almost wonder if it was ghost-directed somehow

that said manhunter is obv a better movie just not as in sync with the hannibal canon such as it is

I like how this is going.

I forgot how freaky it is that the dude ate the painting. He ate it up! Also I remain weirded out by Bedelia.

I miss Alana's dresses.

Yeah, but her new hair style, though.

Also she looks pretty fabulous in pant suits.

it's a travesty how much they've thrown this away. 10pm on saturday with no advertising or even next week previews.

confession: i got 5+ episodes behind & gave up

every episode I watched this season made me feel like i had suffered a head injury, i couldn't follow what was happening :(

i will circle back eventually

The second half of the season is completely different from the first, fwiw. Much more straightforward. (I vastly prefer the first half but I seem to be in the minority on this.)

oh no i totally agree with that.

this half is fun though

I have def seen a lot of people relieved to get the "old" Hannibal back after the "pretentious/artsy" first half which I find insane. Way more into the Lynch/Greenaway/del Toro hybrid nightmare factory. I am v curious to see where these last two eps go, though.

batshit pt. 1 and well-executed less batshit pt. 2 are both great in their own ways, first half was way more an ambitious high-wire act. I feel less urgency with this 2nd half, like I was taking the time to watch the first half episodes right when they aired whereas now I catch up days after the fact

I can definitely enjoy pt. 2 but it's a pretty, graceful version of a familiar set of ideas/relationships, whereas throughout pt. 1 I was constantly marveling at the fact that it was produced and aired at all

dolarhyde in the graham's house was really excellent. great suspense setpiece. although it's one of the few times that i wish the show didn't have so much score.

It was! I actually had to turn it off because I was watching it at night alone and it was giving me the jim jams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWw2drwzaes

Oh, Chilton.

https://twitter.com/GillianA/status/637730302824026113

sez 'make sure to watch past the credits'

this is still airing mid-week in canada or something and i've been cheating and downloading it

can't wait for you guys to catch up

I cheated because it was pre-empted by football and there was no indication anywhere if and when they were going to air it.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/29/everything-hannibal-wore-hannibal

I totally forgot Siouxsie was going to be involved.

That finale really underlined for me that 3A was sort of an insane masterpiece and 3B was an excessively fan-service-y OK thing.

moving the Murder Husbands stuff from subtext to text cost the show a lot (for me anyway)

I believe they call it... a mic drop.

http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/hannibal-redefined-how-we-tell-stories-on-tv.html