We got Ant-Man movie

^^Ant-Man, what the fuck is wrong with you?

this was pretty fun - i kinda enjoyed the smallness of it relative to the increasingly cosmic scale of other marvel movies, and some of the micro-scale action was genuinely inventive. for real though they need to stop making movies about industrialists fighting over control of powerful technology - it's beyond tired now.

wonder how long it'll be before details about how and why edgar wright was fired start to leak out. there are bits of this which still bear his stamp but, like wmc says, the mcu-shoehorn scenes are genuinely painful (poor michael pena having to play excited about the 'jumping, swinging, crawling on walls!' guy) and add nothing at all to the movie. even worse was the civil war setup after the credits - were they really trying to set up a whole new status quo for the marvel universe in like 45 seconds?

everyone seems pretty open that Wright walked, not was fired, over MCU-shoehorning of content and tone

the avengers-infiltration scene sticks out so badly it probably wouldn't be any less jarring if peyton reed showed up on screen beforehand and explained that agreeing to its inclusion was what won him the director's chair

it kinda weirded me out that, between this movie and interstellar, we've now had two movies in less than a year which feature climactic scenes where a father is trapped in some trippy dimension tied to his daughter's bedroom

So basically this sounds like an ep of Agents of SHIELD.

nah, the inventiveness of the tiny-world sequences alone raise it above that level. it's enjoyable, just kinda haunted by the ghost of edgar wright - I think even if you didn't know for sure going in that there was some serious rewriting going on it'd be easy enough to intuit it for yourself

everyone seems pretty open that Wright walked, not was fired, over MCU-shoehorning of content and tone

I'm not sure what the distinction is though, unless Marvel weren't that serious about the shoehorning and he over-reacted? I'm not saying that you're saying that's the case, just that's the only way I can see there being a difference between "fired by Marvel" and "walked because he didn't want to do what Marvel told him to".

okay i had to google edgar wright and yeah that would have been cool if he had directed this. would have been more madcap anyway. the bromedy madcap moments in this never really took off for me.

i still have never seen that scott pilgrim movie. i think for a long time i thought it was one of those garden state infinite playlist movies.

AF - they didn't want or set out to get rid of him, he totally could have stayed and made a compromised version if he'd chosen to; he preferred not to suddenly not make the film he'd been developing for years before the "MCU" was a thing.

Neil hamburger now part of the marvel cinematic universe. (!!!)

Agent Kington morelike

Garrett Morris cameo was a deep, deep in-joke. Can't imagine more than 5% of the audience got that.

xp right, but he surely had some communication or negotiation with the MCU, it wasn't a letter left on the sofa, there'd have been some "I'm uncomfortable with this" / "Well we'd rather you got comfortable with this".

??? There's a huge difference between walking away from a job and being fired from it!

This was totally fun and funny. Y'all crazy. My gf said this might've been her favorite of the Marvel movies so far. Absent the MCU tie-in scenes (which are nowhere near as incongruous as you guys are suggesting), this is a movie that I'm sure would appeal to a broad audience that might otherwise be unfamiliar with the MCU. And that might be disinclined to see a movie called Ant-Man.

A little boilerplate around the edges, but Rudd and Peña were great and most of the rest of the cast and bit players (Neil Hamburger! Avon Barksdale!) were solid, and most of the size changing set pieces were a blast and occasionally straight-up amazing. The audience I saw it with was way into it. I hope it gets some decent word of mouth.

i stand with old lunch

really enjoyed this, certainly more enjoyable than the last avengers film and more in line with the first Thor and Captain America films that stuck to a story and saw it through to the end without spending 75% of the time blowing the shit out of cities or something.

I liked this a lot! much more fun to have a low-key, less OTT superhero flick, that wasn't completely drenched in pathos for 140 minutes (yeah there were a few moments obv). MIchael Pena was hilarious (as was T.I.).

Bobby Cannavale "I did it for you" line at the end kinda comes from nowhere and is unintentionally funny given the way he's treated Lang for the first two hours but hey - I'm glad the final fight, instead of destroying all of a downtown metropolitan area, just destroyed the inside of a couple's house.

holy lols at the gigantic Tank Engine and spider too.

it was an ant, man

xpost were you high when you viewed Y/N bc there is no spider

Freudian slip.

This movie was fine. Didn't seem like there was a lot of thought/effort put into it, though. I was more blown away by the fact that this is the third mom Judy Greer has played this summer. Yeah, she's 40, but she must feel like Meryl Streep said she felt when one year every offer she got was for a witch role.

or like how Paul Giamatti feels when every offer he's gotten this year is a hated white music figure

not too badly done, though the guy's vocal impression is pretty poor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhuvfJPx0Mk

i loled!

yeah but how do you go to all that trouble and still get the voice so wrong

true of so many internet videos, sadly. It's like those (fantastic) "recut" trailers for the Shining ("Shining") and Jaws ("Must Love Jaws"). They're fucking brilliant in the edits, the music cues and the script, but the latter has a convincing "trailer voice" and the former sounds like someone doing an impression of a trailer voice. I figure it's just some goofball like me who hit on the idea and got excited and made it happen, can't ever really hold it against them for not also being a really talented voice actor.

yeah but phone a friend!

The voice clearly seemed a bit parodic and not necessarily meant to be a direct impression. Pretty good!

We got Ant-Man sequel. Via Marvel itself:

Following our hero’s debut adventure in this summer’s “Ant-Man,” Scott Lang will return alongside Hope Van Dyne on July 6, 2018 with Marvel’s “Ant-Man and the Wasp.” The sequel will mark the first Marvel Studios film named after its heroine.

can't help reading 'ant-man and the wasp' to the tune of 'bennie and the jets'

Loved this. Hilarious and fun Saturday afternoon flick.

Enjoyable enough, in a not really very funny way.

But Marvel really don't have any plot for their solo character movies than 'hero fights evil version of self', do they?

I enjoyed this quite a bit, and thought it was pretty funny. Suspect all the flashes of invention (of which there were plenty) were hangovers from Wright.

I liked how all it took for Scott's ex and her boyfriend to forgive him and reinstate him as a parent was for him to bring an armoured laser toting maniac and a giant ant into their daughter's bedroom.

Bobby Cannevale's "I did it for *you*" to Rudd a little on the homoerotic side in delivery

y did nobody mention martin donovan in this?!

Didnt recognise him Until the end credits, felt a bit silly

Michael Douglas, John Slatterly, and Martin Donovan together at last!

This was fine but it didnt earn any of its attempted emotional beats

Peña's closing monologue is insufficiently celebrated.

not by me. i want him to get his own movie tbqh

Peña stated that he modeled Luis' vocal style and positive outlook on life "on a friend of a friend", saying, "That's just the way he talks and the cadence. He's got this grin on the entire time and he doesn't care. He's the kind of guy where you're like 'Hey, what'd you do this weekend?' and he's like 'I went to jail, dawg,' with a smile on his face. Not a lot of people do that.

I love this

<3 pena is the best