Tears for Fears: C or D?

those Talk Talk kids didn't seem to be too bothered by "seeds of love".

God, I fucking love The Seeds of Love. I listen to it far more than The Hurting and even Songs From The Big Chair these days. I'd love for them to put out a box set for The Seeds of Love, there must be so much fucking outtake material out there somewhere.

Then Play Long reaches the difficult third album: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/tears-for-fears-seeds-of-love.html

Yeah, obviously I disagree. I personally don't find this to be an "irritatingly unsatisfactory" record at all, and while the production is completely rammed with detail, I still wouldn't call the sound "oxygen starved" ... 'Advice For The Young At Heart' is a wonderful song with production to match, IMO, and side 2 is wonderful when it clicks. It's not Songs From The Big Chair part 2, but that's a good thing.

Love is a promise
Love is a souvenir

Time to eat all your words!

Correct number one.

I'd swap out "break it down again" with "badman's song" and shuffle a few towards the end, but mostly otm

"The Working Hour" is majestic.

tears for fears deliver on the bombastic promise of simple minds at their worst and most anthemic

it's hard to be a man when there's a gun in your hand

tears for fears deliver on the bombastic promise of simple minds at their worst and most anthemic

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, June 11, 2017

otm

I've said it before, but Tears For Fears may be the only band in the world influenced by '80 Genesis​, bless 'em.

no quibbles with that list. excellent

Was hoping this would be news about the loooong promised new album. Feel like these guys have at least one more great album left in them - the last one had a few excellent moments

I don't hear '80s Genesis in TFF.

The drums, guitars and synths alone on "Songs from the Big Chair" are totally '80s Genesis, especially a song like "Broken;" Manny Elias definitely had Phil Collins on the mind. The songwriting is much better than '80s Genesis, though, which (go figure) makes a big difference!

The songwriting is much better than '80s Genesis

Interesting argument but I can't fully agree with it. Big Chair was a solid album but the albums after were fairly spotty. Although I guess one could say the same of the solid Duke and the spottier records that followed from Genesis. But Genesis seemed to understand the value of concision in their pop songs far more than TFF. The tracks on Seeds Of Love in particular run overly long and would've benefited from an editor's knife.

welll, it WAS the year of the knife

The Hurting is generally brilliant with a few patchy parts. Songs from the Big Chair is near perfection. Can't get on with most of seeds of love at all though. Badman's Song sounds like every negative cliche of bad 80s production that usually isn't true, but here is 100% accurate.

I need "I Believe" and none of the 90s stuff, but sounds about right.

honestly when I say Tears for Fears I pretty much only mean big chair, which is one of my favorite albums.

I'd be happy if they just released a 10" of covers every 6 months.

New single coming soon!

Elemental is such a jam

^ that album's great. first CD I ever bought :)

New album coming soon called The Tipping Point, apparently. New single is called 'I Love You But I'm Lost'

hmm, same title as a great sharon van etten track

'My Demons', 'End of Night' and 'Up Above the World' are other tracks apparently confirmed to be on there - the general vibe of the record has been described as "clubby"

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Elemental is such a jam

― MaresNest, Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:16 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The two Curtless TFF albums tend to get swept under the carpet for some reason - there's some great material on both.

DOG'S A BEST FRIEND'S DOG

Raoul and the Kings of Spain in particular came out to very little fanfare other than from the TFF hardcore. Everyone else ignored it.

I'm not much into the Orzabal solo record, though.

As for co-headlining with Hall & Oates, c'mon guys, stop being so hard on yourselves - you're better than that.

The money pays the bills, I'm sure.

"Elemental" is my least favorite album of theirs - "Break It Down Again" really rankled me at the time, it felt like dumbed-down TFF aiming for the charts. It worked, I guess. It's not a *bad* album - I do love the title track and the closer, "Goodnight Song" - but it's the last one I'd reach for to put on.

"Raoul And The Kings Of Spain" is really strong, though. I saw that tour and Roland was in fine form, covering Radiohead's "Creep" and being a big he-man goof on stage.

isn't Elemental a solo album for all intents and purposes?

I suppose it is. His proper solo album, "Tomcats Screaming Outside", has its charms as an example of "artist tries different style and fails in an enjoyable way".

Yeah, Orzabal's work under his own name was different to the TFF stuff.

^ that album's great. first CD I ever bought :)

First album I ever bought too (tho cassette)! Over the years, I went from really liking it, to hating it, to liking it again

i heard curt smith's second solo album. it had one good song on it. any good songs on either of his other two?

Had them, sold them. So - no.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Smith's solo stuff either, even though I've always preferred his voice to Orzabal's.

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Elemental is a jam tbh, if some consider it their worst i should check out their subsequent releases i guess. it's a pretty good listen the whole way thru imo. Break it Down Again, love it!

altho:

"No sleep for dreaming" say the architects of life
Big bouncing babies, bread and butter - can I have a slice?

ok

Hated them at the time as a kid, hate them now.

I always think of 1982 as the big fabulous party of New Pop, with ABC and the Associates and Adam & The Ants and Soft Cell and Madness and Haircut 100 and a pre-shitness Simple Minds et al . . . and then 1983 was its horrible stinking hangover with the likes of this lot, Howard Jones, Thompson Twins, Nik Kershaw, Kajagoogoo and all that drivel.

Elemental is a really good record. It's their fourth best after the first big three.

jon123's 0-2 in the last hour :)