Young Thug thread

the trend of rap lyrics being used as evidence in court is so troubling

http://pitchfork.com/news/60417-cash-money-sues-jay-z-tidal-for-50-million-over-lil-waynes-the-free-weezy-album/

the implied narrative by all these headlines is pretty amazing

*lil wayne sues birdman*

birdman: 50 mil? fuck am i supposed to get that?

birdman: let's just kill him

*failed murder attempt*

birdman: damn

*tidal releases 'free weezy album'*

birdman: maybe we can get it from jay

You guys, the only evidence they're claiming is that the shooter holds a gun in Thug's video where Thugger obliquely references Wayne in a non-threatening manner, about two minutes after the reference. He's not going down over this.

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but it's fishy. Why else would someone shoot at lil wayne's tour bus?

https://soundcloud.com/300-entertainment/young-thug-pacifier

it's whineybait because it has sampled snare drums but it legitimately is great and probably the best thing young thug has done this year

Great MWMI beat, quickly ruined by Whiner McMumbles spitting all over it.

Dimwit here... I'm really enjoying all this Lil Wayne-influenced hip hop recently. This "cloud rap" & Southern Rae Sremmurd/Young Thug stuff seems too "out there" to have become as popular as it has, though... from my perspective it's like Bjork-inspired acts took over a large chunk of radio rock!

Basically this stuff seems so avant garde, lyrically, that I don't understand how it's become so popular. I know I'm speaking from ignorance here (Canadian living in Cambodia), but I'm so ignorant I don't even know why I'm wrong. Can someone clue me in? Yeah there are parallels in the past with James Brown or early electronica where the music simply went over a lot people's heads, but a core component of this new stuff seems to be dadaist lyrics. Even the silliest doo-wop (and this could be called doowopcore imho) had the love song structure. Rock has had "Bird's the Word"/"Song 2"-type songs but they were always considered novelties within the genre. Are there past examples of genres centrally featuring dadaist lyrics becoming as popular as this wave of hip hop, or it historically unique? Is there criticism which has touched upon this? I know that there's a lot of meaning going over my head, but the bizarreness of Young Thug's lyrical style is a major part of the appeal, no?

RIP Camp Lo's former wikipedia page ;_;

speaking of... their new album is a blast

xxp this is p much why currently i'm listening to more hip hop than i ever have.

i mean, i used to listen primarily for the productions, not being a big lyrics guy, but these days it's the delivery of the vocal and the sheer fun with - i don't want to say wordplay - but fun with words in general, pronunciation etc.

omg this new song!!

Yes. Dropping it right now after 14 months of limbo feels like massive damage control from 300 Ent, but if this is indeed the first single from the album I'm not mad at all.

Yeah me too doglatin, it's some of the freshest stuff out there and I keep coming back to it... but I've imagined how I'd feel if "Hey QT" or "Lemonade" shot to the top of the charts. Stunned. Guess it's already happened with Southern Hip Hop and I'm just out of touch (main difference from 2000s crunk & Lil Wayne is in no way does this feel like a novelty).

Yeah I'm relatively new to it too, save for a few EOY cuts from the past. Not sure how much hip hop figures in the UK charts ATM cos I don't really pay attention to them. Neither am I that sure about how well recognised people like Thugger are in the UK outside of hip-hop circles. Still, over the summer I've found along with afrobeats it's all I really want to listen to.

Ha, Afrobeats... heard a few times out this month. Latest was Friday, seeing a session bassist friend with an Indian drummer-on-a-beats-in-a-box and typical Cambo expat as singer-songwriter... was warned against it earlier by the bassist at a local beefhouse... called the singer-songwriter a cross between Cohen and the Crash Test Dummies. Went anyhow, thought it was alright, singer-songwriter English teacher nihilist dude apparently doubles as videographer, had koyaanisqatsi-style footage on the projector from Late 90s East Village lowlife... heroin addicts and WTC and all... guy was closer to an untalented Nick Cave, w/ East Village affections... whole time through it's Nigerians in the back playing pool flirting with Khmer whores and one-night-in-the-Penh scared Ozzie backpackers at the bar hugging their girls watching the Wimbledon semifinals live. Their LAST NOTE Davido gets pumped up on the speakers (note that Nigerians are barred from most bars here so they'll take it where they can get it), Mr English Teacher asides immediately to bassist friend that they get replaced by "techno shit".

Feel a bit bad for the guy, sure he's a musical hack but the footage was great, he succeeded in mooding his corner, so after my food-poisoned friend & Viet wife & kid leaves and my wife & I get bored I get fed up of waiting for him to stop talking to the drummer (giving up on my dreams of explaining Bhangra and Cave might not be the best fit) and head up to his booth, saying that yeah at times I clued into his act and considered it the shit... like Thurston Moore had a blues side-project (hey know your audience). "hey wow thanks!"... and hey is your footage on YouTube? "It's a long story... I'm in the middle of a conversation, can we talk in a bit?"

English teacher proceeds to the bar. I proceed to rock out to Davido the hardest in my life.

I wore a Phillies cap out that night. Learned the next night at Sharky's he was from Harrisburg PA. Might prefer no fans at all over the kinds of people he left back in PA on his way to the East Village, I dunno. I've got 100k views a day nowadays on YT, thought his video was the shit, wanted to explain how to get an audience bigger than one per week.

Anyway this is the kind of stuff I should post under a screenname, not for being Phnom Penh, but because I've been told my pithiness is legendary and should remain under wraps. Davido's been great this month tho. Won't share the other times.

Cambodia

terrifyingly british

"pacifier" is sick

it's whineybait because it has sampled snare drums but it legitimately is great and probably the best thing young thug has done this year

― some dude, Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

i love the guitars and the screaming

do we know whether or not hitunes is going to have anything thugger recorded in 2015?

regardless pacifier is insanely good

https://soundcloud.com/mikewillmadeit/young-thug-i-need-chickens-mike-will-made-it

love that sweater

do we know whether or not hitunes is going to have anything thugger recorded in 2015?

why wouldn't it? it generally seems like he's constantly recording and most of what he releases is very recent (and the clearly old stuff that's gotten out there has been unauthorized leaks or stuff from Gucci's vaults).

might be something to do with

andrew ‏@noz Jul 16
assuming barter 6 was all rich gang era cuts to preempt the leak we haven't heard one contemporaneous young thug song in 2015

He also says Pacifier is "at least 14 months old"

i saw that tweet but i don't know why he assumes the leak & barter 6 were old material? barter 6 defnitely feels like a whole album of 'givenchy' but that's not really concrete. maybe based grandpa knows something i don't?

Yeah, I don't see any reason to assume the stuff on Barter 6 wasn't new.

yeah maybe noz has an inside track on something i dunno. a lot of big name rappers are frequently throwing out music that was recorded really really recently, but i always suspect that a lot of the 'new' music we hear has been sitting on a hard drive for longer than we'd guess, like a good year or two. you just can't even guess unless the artist is prone to timestamped references (which YT isn't) or has had turnover in producers and collaborators (which YT has, so you kind of assume if a song with Quan or Lil Wayne leaks that it was done a while ago).

hi.

i can't find it right now but there was a youtube interview where thug specifically says that barter 6 was put together from the leaked tracks to preempt the leak. and it was my understanding that the leak was all rich gang era stuff. there are definitely some of those time stamping issues on b6 too ie "i'm chasing dreams free meek milly" six months after meek came home.

here is mike will tweeting about pacifier in may 2014 https://twitter.com/MikeWiLLMadeIt/status/465956175331479552

thank you based grandpa

on second thought i would guess "constantly hating" is new material given the oblique lil wayne references and the fact that it's stylistically pretty different from everything else on there

yeah that was the one that always made the record feel of-the-moment to me but i guess it was an outlier.

so Young Thug has to have recorded a ton of songs in the last 6 months and we've maybe heard barely any of them? interesting.

:)

"Pacifier"is pretty cool, feels like a spiritual sequel to "Y.R.N" from the Lobby Runners mixtape.

Of all the leaked songs, I hope "Freaky" gets a legit release some day. I remember hearing snippets with writeups implying it was supposed to be part of a collab with Kanye. Maybe that's who the blank verse at the end is for. It makes me miss "Danny Glover" / "Eww" era Thug. Like I understand he's refined his style so much since then but there's this feeling of naive exploration you hear on those tracks that doesn't really pop up on Barter 6 and I miss it a little

If Barter 6 was really just a bunch of leftovers thrown together, I'm impressed. It feels session-y in a way that most Thug projects haven't.

does it matter if the tracks havent been made in the last week that much? probably better that they take some time to enhance what they made a while back, or decide whats the best to put on the actual album. pacifier is good, surprisingly funky, and prob a good introduction to thugga than a lot of his other songs. its still him but also more accessible, not that weird sounding. a good single really. makes me think the album will be well put together.

I think I kind of like Chickens a bit more than Pacifier, even if it does sound like the 'b-side' to that song.

luv this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-7hoKVizKg

o this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g5rn8HN3HI

i was @ the breakers last week and stuck in my head was "ok i woke up in a mansion w/ 3 naked bitches dancing on me"

pacifier, pacifier, loobadiblubblub

Barter 6 us really starting to grow on me. At first I was a bit worried it wasn't banging or fun enough but there are a fair few great hooks and lines in there. Maybe it helped that I was listening to DS2 recently, which is similarly laidback and subdued

"pacifier" the real future hendrix

i appreciate this post

Yeah Pacifier is pure gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYUzvRgGfQ0&feature=youtu.be&t=2m42s

ummm...ok?