ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

Hah hah "great hair" otm. Not to be underrated if you can pull it off (which I unfortunately cannot).

And yeah, pretty much any record with Jim White is a good record.

You going to Red Rocks tonight?

i am! should be fun. two wild nights in a row, though, i feel tired already.

Hah hah. I am sure you will have fun man, seems like a pretty ideal way to see the Gunn Band, and a damn fine way to spend an evening. Maybe Nels Cline will make it wild for the Wilco set too.

tyler have you heard "you follow me" by nina nastasia & jim white?

You guys are gonna have to school me on Duck Baker. I've never heard his name outside of those Stefan Grossman guitar videos, and a quick Googling shows lots of traditional Irish stuff (usually not my bag, unless I'm in Ireland). Where to start? The song I just heard - "Child Of My Heart" - is wonderful.

And now I'm listening to some stuff with Zorn and Derek Bailey and not feeling it so far (but I'm generally unmoved by both Bailey and Zorn)

i have heard that nastasia album but i should revisit...
i'm new to baker, but the one i got is super solid! start there!

My lady friend was in Peru for three weeks and I was missing her, so I got a bit tipsy one night and made this podcast. Thought it would be relevant to this topic:
http://imgur.com/pnMTqJy
http://austintayeshus.blogspot.com/2015/06/acoustic-mix-for-angel-in-peru.html

Sorry, that should be:
http://i.imgur.com/pnMTqJy.png
http://austintayeshus.blogspot.com/2015/06/acoustic-mix-for-angel-in-peru.html

gunn at red rocks was sweet - they sounded really good in a big open space. almost dareisay zeppelin-esque at times? (musically, not vocally haha)

I've been lurking on this thread because I CANNOT catch up to you guys, so I've been pretty quiet. Anyway, Glenn Jones playing my wedding this Saturday. He's been super nice. Him and his wife will be guests when he isn't playing- hoping we'll be able to chat and I'll try to get some footage of him playing. He said he has some new pieces he'll be playing for us!

oh man that is so cool... and congrats! being married is the best.
see if glenn will break this one out
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3V9mIP7kQ

Oh cool Evan, have a great time! That should be great, hope you have a really wonderful day/night.

There are some total pastoral-version Zeppelin moments in those recent Gunn band songs. Just kinda production/sound-wise with the guitars, but I hear it for sure. Would have loved to see that kinda thing at Red Rocks, though a small and intimate room where I am right up front ain't so bad either. Hope to do one or the other sometime soon.

funny you mention gunn's vox because i noticed he has this phrasing thing he does ALL THE TIME where he ends a phrase kind of in the way dylan ends lines like "he not busy being born is busy DY-IN'" or "even the president of the united states must sometimes stand NA-KED" (like emphasizing the last 2 syllables of the line)

thanks guys! xposts

Yeah Death Kit Train is a good one for the processional I'd say, right?

pretty sure it was written for that express purpose

and re: gunn's vocals, he really does seem to have come into his own in that area -- sounded super confident/powerful last night (without losing his low-key charm).

xpost Wimmels, you might also wanta check that Duck Baker video I posted here a couple days ago, where he's playing "Blue Monk."

congrats evan, v jealous

realised I never got back to global re just intonation/unusual tunings. to get really commit you have to redo your fretboard and working in the already unpopular realm of modern composition that limits things a lot and I think there really are only a handful of guitarists playing this stuff, you're definitely in youtube videos with three-figure views territory. also this often seems to go hand in hand with theatrical vocals for reasons which remain unclear to me.

larry polansky has done some pretty interesting stuff, some of it super dry but this is a jaunty folksy one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yiZ8bzoSW4

and I really like this piece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WuZ--ziRcE

this james tenney duo for two delicately out of tune guitars has some nice bits especially the gnarly final ten seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOP4Q6GEM48

if we're just talking wacky tunings there's some steffen basho junghans improv stuff with detuned guitars (not my favourite of his stuff but he has such a gorgeous touch he's always a pleasure to listen to) and while we're on the subject of more out there guitarists it would be remiss not to mention hans reichel who was amazingly inventive, had a very distinctive rich sound full of overtones, built loads of his own guitars (with strange features like frets right up to the bridge, guitars with fretboards either side of a bridge, harmonic capos) and was a genuine virtuoso in a way none of the guys we talk about here could come close to. one of my absolute favourite guitarists, in any top 3 I'd ever have to make, and horribly underrated; when he died there was pretty much a media silence it was so depressing

could have a whole thread of pics of guitars for non-standard playing but just a couple

http://www.matthewgrasso.com/images/image_14noteoctavejust_001.jpg

love those moveable frets

http://i.picresize.com/images/2015/07/18/1aBQd.jpg

one of hans reichel's

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/steven-universe/images/b/ba/Mind-blown.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150627025426

haha, that gif otm
did anyone mention this ryley walker/bill mackay duo record coming out next month?
http://thewhistler.bigcartel.com/product/bill-mackay-ryley-walker-land-of-plenty-lp
sounds pretty great, all instrumental.

also got this new one from mark fosson in the mail yesterday -- very nice stuff, on par with his earlier material, i'd say, plus some excellent banjo stuff.
https://markfosson.bandcamp.com/album/ky

This Dave Evans tune "Stagefright" was posted by the Gunn Band dudes. Hadn't heard much about him before, but this is a pretty wild tune in re fingerpicking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqTLkgImAdU&feature=youtu.be

Damnit, the url tags do not work for youtubes. Forgot AGAIN.

Also, I would love to play one of those Hans Reichel or just intonation-modded guitars. So cool. Reichel's self built instruments are all cool, but those that are "guitarish" are of course most interesting to me. Cool as hell.

yeah I admire the ingenuity with his daxophone stuff and it is a pretty amazing and unique thing, but it always seemed incredible to me that you could be one of the best guitarists on the planet and not that interested in playing guitar. his website is great also

Hah hah, yeah, some people do not ride for their most obvious talents, they just go with what interests them most. Reichel I guess was one of those folks.

we live in quite a world....in order of Ramadan, Jerry Hionis is giving away his EP of American Primitive covers of Genesis!

https://jerryhionis.bandcamp.com/

let's not pretend we didn't all know this would happen sooner or later

I thought of doing a straight instrumental/acoustic cover of Drive Like Jehu's "Sinews". I even worked out parts of it hah hah. Good way to practice without the pressure of writing anything.

let's not pretend we didn't all know this would happen sooner or later

― tylerw, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 4:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another muslim american primitive folk guitarist cashing in on the Genesis craze? yawn

Hah hah.

I thought of doing a straight instrumental/acoustic cover of Drive Like Jehu's "Sinews".

― grandavis, Thursday, July 23, 2015 1:49 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would buy

yeah i was having a conversation with someone at the chuck johnson/metzger show that there's a not-so-secret connection between the nu-american primitive revival and 90s u.s. underground postpunk & post rock stuff

^^ see also: David Grubbs

Hah hah, thanks Wimmels, I will keep that in mind. Maybe I will just cover the whole album (terrible idea btw), as I have the whole thing internalized and could probably do it without listening to it at all.

And yeah UMS/sleeve, totally. Chuck Johnson was in a band with Dave Brylawski (sp?) from Polvo and was a Carolina dude from that era. Lots of easy-to-spot crossover guys. Pajo the obvious one, and Grubbs maybe the biggest. Danny Paul Grody was a "post-rock" guy for lack of a better term, sure there are plenty of others.

Cul-de-Sac/Glenn Jones too

Oh yeah, totally. Played Cul-de-Sac on my radio shows long before Glenn started putting out any of those solo records.

from Doug McCombs from Tortoise, et all interviewed Wm Tyler a few years ago:

I know what you mean, man. I feel like there are so many things that you can say or do with instrumental music, and there doesn't need to be another bad lyric on the earth.

I remember a very specific moment when I was about 19. I was working at this cafe that had open-mike nights on Fridays. In Nashville, that can be a pretty mixed bag. I remember one night somebody came in and just played a guitar piece—I think they were doing a Chet Atkins cover or something—and I just remember thinking, "Wow, that was so noninvasive, and actually I sort of enjoyed it. I wish more people did it." It was probably about the same time that I discovered Tortoise and all the music you guys were doing. Honestly, that was a huge revelation to me. I was like, "Oh wait, you can be a band and not have a singer, and there's nothing lost at all."

and there doesn't need to be another bad lyric on the earth.

feeling this sentiment

glenn jones was ahead of the curve. fahey made a big impression on that postpunk audience with his 'comeback' - the byron coley spin article, hanging out with sonic youth, no neck blues band - his stuff totally fit in with that scene. all his back cat was getting reissued on CD (+ his book), journalists were clearly listening to it; for a while nearly anything with fingerpicked guitar on it was described as "fahey-esque", even radiohead

yeah i think the first time i heard of fahey might have been thruston namechecking him somewhere, not sure if i actually heard him until years later

UMS-I seemed to recall listening to Fahey together in the dorm, I had the Rhino 2-cd set

yeah that rhino set was where i heard him first, i think, sometime in college. can't remember where i first saw his name though... maybe that coley spin article?

The Coley Spin article was definitely percolating in the abckground, though my curiosity was peaked when I found out that Dr Demento had written the liners and I had been a big Demento listener in my tweens/early teens

Also I'm sure I read Jim O'Rouke had mentioned Fahey around that same time