matt cameron's a great drummer though, and a pretty great songwriter too.
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Sunday, 12 July 2015 10:31 (eight years ago) link
Oh, for sure; I miss Jack's contribution to the band's sound a lot but it's no knock on Matt. Evacuation and In the Moonlight are among my favourite late-period Pearl Jam songs.
― Birds in Hell, Sunday, 12 July 2015 10:43 (eight years ago) link
Well, it's no knock on Matt's ABILITY anyway. I'd have been tempted at one point to say that his talents were being somewhat wasted in Pearl Jam but at least Soundgarden are back together now so I don't think that's true anymore.
He's a great drummer but I think Pearl Jam's previous drummers were arguably a better fit for their core sound.
― Birds in Hell, Sunday, 12 July 2015 10:56 (eight years ago) link
I'd have been tempted at one point to say that his talents were being somewhat wasted in Pearl Jam but at least Soundgarden are back together now so I don't think that's true anymore.
Yeah. Though I would be bummed to see SG and find it was Matt Chamberlain and not Matt Cameron playing (not sure who drummed at Hyde Park last summer, was p sure in was Cameron)
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Sunday, 12 July 2015 11:52 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that was Cameron - Hyde Park was one of the only Soundgarden shows he played at in 2014, Chamberlain played the rest for the most part.
I get the impression that was a one-off arrangement for last year though, Cameron's played at every Soundgarden show since.
Funnily enough, I'd be thrilled to see Chamberlain sit in with Pearl Jam (again). He's a GREAT drummer and his style seems a lot more suited to them than Soundgarden.
― Birds in Hell, Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:44 (eight years ago) link
Chamberlain's a great session drummer. I even liked him back in Edie Brickell's band, and he was an integral part of Tori Amos' band sound, too, and he's great when he plays with Jon Brion. Not sure how well he ultimately fits PJ, though. I mean, he's a session guy and can fit in anywhere, in the end, but I actually like Cameron's contributions.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 July 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link
E/G# is a very common inversion, it's just E major with the 3rd in the bass instead of the root. I've seen inversions like that in countless songs. On guitar, I tend to just play a standard E major chord but use my little finger to fret the G# on the low E string. Using chords like this is great for creating descending basslines, e.g. A E/G# D/F# E, or ascending basslines, e.g.: F D/F# G E/G# A.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Sunday, 12 July 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah, chamberlain was in pj between krusen and abbrusseze, wasn't he?
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Sunday, 12 July 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
Soundgarden getting a Cameron replacement while he does PJ shows irritated me so much...I get it from a logistical standpoint, because PJ has a bigger repertoire and changes setlists dramatically from night to night, so it's easier for a guy to come in and learn a set that Soundgarden plays every night than to keep up with the demands of a PJ tour. But Cameron is Soundgarden's backbone more fundamentally than any drummer has been for PJ. Totally agree that having Jack Irons back for one tour would've been wonderful.
― some dude, Sunday, 12 July 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
Jack was beautifully loose, No Code is so great partly bcz of him.
But Cameron is good! He's a great fit, and while maybe he's not someones technical cup of tea, he's a keen collaborator, plus his steadiness & easygoingness has helped glue the band together in a positive way. They are a better band collectively for having him imo
But it would def suck seeing Soundgarden without him, that's some bullshit
Maybe he needs cloning to play both bands at the same time
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0zINtulhM
It was recorded live, so that's his playing too.
― Birds in Hell, Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
yeah Cameron is good with PJ...I wish more of their work with him had the interesting spark he brought to the best parts of Binaural, but that's more down to the band already being on a creative decline by the time he joined.
― some dude, Sunday, 12 July 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link
I wish more of their work with him had the interesting spark he brought to the best parts of Binaural, but that's more down to the band already being on a creative decline by the time he joined.
That said, Matt does seem like more of a cerebral, 'straight' drummer (in terms of feel) that someone like Irons or Abbruzzese who, despite having very different styles, both seem like looser, groovier players which I think fits right in with the band's expansive 70s rock thing.
― Birds in Hell, Sunday, 12 July 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link
If anybody is interested, this bod has a really good YT channel in which they sync the soundboard recordings of full gigs to crowd digicam footage, I know there's a lot of this stuff to be found out there but this guy/girl is especially good at putting them together.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn-WEUogXBFbwfm3nmGN3rw
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
Getting a little too into the rhythms of even flow at the bar ...will bring it down a notch
― calstars, Saturday, 14 July 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
Nah, take it up a notch buddy
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Saturday, 14 July 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Looks like I get to see them at Wrigley Field, pretty psyched. I've seen the band a bunch but not for a long while, and even though I never put on their records I've always been impressed by them live.
Unrelated, I heard "Hard to Handle" by the Black Crowes today, and parts of it sort of reminded me of a slower, major key version of "Even Flow."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link
my friend is going to the Home shows in Seattle & i am crazy jealous
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link
They were fine last night but not their best. A friend in the know told me that Seattle - the planning, the playing, the organization - took a lot out of them.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
really? My FB page was full of friends in all. Was that the show at which he used Tom Petty's guitar or some shit?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 August 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link
Yeah, among other stunts. Dennis Rodman was there babbling, Vedder played a Petty guitar, Cubs World Series trophy on stage, they covered "Rebel Rebel," etc. I've seen them before and they've been better. They just never gathered momentum. Bolstering my position, I know they had permission to blow past the curfew, which was 11pm, but they stopped more or less right there.
I mean, it wasn't bad! They're a good live act. But this was not the keeper among the sets I've seen them play.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 August 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
And indeed, band was significantly better tonight, rain delay and all.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 06:06 (five years ago) link
Looks like a great setlist both nights, with some fun songs thrown in. Got the itch to attack the PJ DVD collection tonight.
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 07:58 (five years ago) link
2020 European tour announced - got my London tickets and hopefully grab Krakow ones on Saturday. Merry Christmas to me.
― knowing for certain the first touch of the light will finish you (fionnland), Monday, 2 December 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link
those london ticket prices though :-(might do amsterdam and might be able to blag stockholm lollapalooza... definitely want to catch a few if i can anyway
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 2 December 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
they havent had a US tour in SIX YEARS wtf are they doing a european tour :( why do they hate me
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
Warming up for a US tour?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
^^ My guess. Rumor has it a new album will be out next year, so it makes sense. Still leaves time for an appearance at Lolla in August, otherwise maybe Summer 2021 for their big North American tour?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
Damn, I haven't seen them since the Backspacer tour in 2010!
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
ok kneejerk reaction set aside...i just talked to a fanclub friend, scuttlebutt is that they will ~hopefully~ also announce US tour as wellso i am crossing fingers & toes
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link
🚨NEW ALBUM MARCH 27 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨US TOUR🚨🚨🚨🚨https://pearljam.comSnagged tix for Oakland on April 18 woooop Excited!!!Feel free to commence cynically distancing yrself from my excitement since this is ilm after all
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
single is called "Dance of the Clairvoyants" so I guess they're finally going prog
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 13 January 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link
Vedder is so cute these days.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
“these days”cute in all decades imo
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
Album cover is very Rush!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 January 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link
it def is
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Pearl_Jam_-_Gigaton.pnghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Rush_Grace_Under_Pressure.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 January 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link
I follow the nature photographer who shot the PJ cover on Instagram. He has a lot of amazing shots of Arctic wildlife.
https://www.instagram.com/paulnicklen/
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 13 January 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link
would be a pretty cool cover without the heartbeat gimmick
― omg what did you type to find this gif? (Spottie), Monday, 13 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link
Ottawa, Quebec City and fucking Hamilton? but no Montreal date.
― sofatruck, Thursday, 16 January 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link
Eh, there will be more. I mean, I could have sworn there was no Chicago date, either.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
"US Tour"
***skips everyplace between NY and Nashville
>:(
― Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link
so they've finally done their "Eminence Front"
https://youtu.be/hdietlvGkds
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link
Well, that was unexpected.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link
Weird, for some reason I thought Brendan O'Brien had produced every PJ album (except "Binaural"), but no, just most of them. But not this one.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link
I dig it.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link
Kind of Muse-y, tbh. But I like it, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link
lol i love this
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
cameron sounds like he's having a blast
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link
I dig the many-Vedders coda
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link