Jon, I wouldn't say that the (re)colouring on the epic collections is 'hideous' - I'm guessing that it's matched to the original comic printing in most cases, and as Old Lunch says, on the whole it's understated - they haven't added flashy computer colouring effects to old Kirby/Ditko pages. In comparison to the early hardcover Masterworks - truly some of the nastiest recolouring I've ever seen - they're a model of taste and restraint. But it is still obviously colour produced on a computer, so 'feels' wrong, and I would be more interested in Marvel reprints shot directly from the comics themselves. Of Of course,Marvel kept very very poor copies - if at all - of their early superhero titles, so that almost from the start, reprints of the Silver Age material have involved greater or lesser amounts of 'correction', redrawing etc, that often significantly departs from the original artwork and its first printing.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 10 July 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
hmmmmmhttp://nypost.com/2015/07/14/did-stan-lee-steal-spider-man-from-a-brooklyn-costume-shop/
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
The costumes looks nothing alike, beyond what you'd get if you got two guys to design different spider-man costumes. I am curious how common the <something>-Man name would have been back then, though.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
I think there was a Superguy or something back then
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link
there was also whatsisname, Batfellow
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link
Aquachap
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link
Amazing-Man, Atomic Man, Bronze Man, Bulletman, Cat-Man, Doll Man, Dynamic Man, Hawkman, Hourman, Hydro Man, Master Man, Mighty Man, Plastic Man, Robotman, Rockman, Sandman, Skyman, Starman, V-Man, Wonder Man
are all from the 40s
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
but seriously, while it's usually safe to assume that Stan Lee never thought up anything worthwhile by himself, the costume thing seems like a stretch
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link
If you look at the mask and squint a little from a distance you get a little bit of the same feel as Marvel's Spider-Man but... yeah, this could be completely unrelated.
I mean, two independent people come up with spider-related costumes and they both use webs? What are the odds!
― Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
xpost Ahem, Stripperella?
― Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
you're right, I stand corrected
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
some day we will figure out the composite of characters he absorbed traits from to come up with his Stan Lee character
― Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link
PT Barnum and Robert E Lee iirc
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link
he saw a funky flashman costume at some point
― Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
http://brevoortformspring.tumblr.com/post/124153395043/can-you-explain-why-marvel-thinks-that-doing-hipuh
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 July 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
David Brothers is patient on that:
http://tumblr.iamdavidbrothers.com/post/124166143967/can-you-explain-why-marvel-thinks-that-doing-hip
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 July 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
booming response there, hope marvel pays attention
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 17 July 2015 08:38 (eight years ago) link
still bigger than hip hop
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link
It looks like the response from David Brothers had already been written and reposted by Brevoort, along with another response that was responded to by Brevoort wherein he fleshed out his response, prior to any of this popping up in the thread.
― Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
Ok this made me chucklehttp://www.comicbookmovie.com/deadpool/news/?a=124258Marvel’s Latest Joke Is A Playful Jab At DC ComicsCheck out the new Deadpool "Candy Varient" in which Marvel takes a playful jab at DC Comics advertising department. For those who need to be caught up, read on after the jump
For those of you that need to be caught up, DC Comics stunned the comic book community a few months ago by stating that the June issues will feature half-page ads on story pages.http://oi58.tinypic.com/34y65c6.jpg
― tsrobodo, Friday, 21 August 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link
They stunned the comic book community that aren't old enough to remember when half-page ads were kind of a regular thing.
Not that they were a good thing or that I'm in any way advocating their return. Just saying, y'know, there's precedent.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link
When are we talking about? I've been reading for a few decades and it doesn't ring a bell (but my memory is terrible).
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link
Frequent practice on both Marvel and DC comics throughout the 1960s and into the 1970s at least
More egregious - Marvel's early 70s trick of blowing up a single page into a double page spread
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 21 August 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link
kinda amusing that marvel are decrying dc's commercial policies on the cover of yet another first-issue grab for those collector dollars
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 21 August 2015 13:23 (eight years ago) link
Also, it's maybe not wise to draw attention to advertising practices being employed by the Distinguished Competition. Marvel's ad department might start getting ideas.
This seems particularly egregious with the price of floppies skyrocketing, but it just underscores my belief that the Big Two are pushing to make floppies as undesirable as possible before ultimately phasing them out altogether.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link
most egregious: spelling ingest "injest" in the small print on that cover
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Friday, 21 August 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link
or is that something americans do?
only Americans who don't know how to spell
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 21 August 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
Well, given that the front cover is, you know, in jest...
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link
americans: bad spellers, bad punners
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
There's a helpful little entry on this blog about Marvel's half page ads period:
http://hayfamzone.blogspot.co.uk/
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
I read James Robinson's FF run that led up to the present the other day. It's decent, but if anything it seems really rote compared to the crazy stuff Hickman was doing and the villain is underdeveloped. The kids seem... too childish compared to the other recent portrayals? I mean, they are kids, but after the Future Foundation run Val and Franklin are a couple of my favorites.
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link
specifically on a variant cover
― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
I'm reading Infinity at the moment and resigning myself to the impossibility of getting caught up soon enough to read any part of Secret Wars in real time. For those interested, I'd break down the first year of Marvel Now! stuff (that I've read) thusly:
I think it's great and recommend it highly:Captain AmericaThor: God of ThunderAvengersNew AvengersSecret Avengers
I think it's quite good or at least appreciate the effort:All-New X-Men/Uncanny X-Men/Wolverine and the X-MenUncanny AvengersYoung Avengers
I think it's, y'know, okay:Fantastic Four/FFGuardians of the GalaxyIron ManSuperior Spider-Man
I'm just not that into it:Avengers AssembleCaptain MarvelFearless DefendersIndestructible HulkNovaThunderbolts
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link
The newest iteration (I think! it keeps iterating) of Secret Avengers has a Modok that is in love with Maria Hill
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
You just made me wonder how a physical relationship with a Modok would work so "thanks" for that.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
I assume there's a lot of head
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 21 August 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
that's the DJP I know and love
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
lol, a+
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 21 August 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
Two things I'd like to see in the wake of Secret Wars: 1) fewer title reboots (preferably zero of them, but this is the new world we live in) and 2) fewer mind-bendingly colossal threats to the earth/universe/multiverse. I'm digging Infinity thus far but, between the Builders and Thanos and the alternate earth incursions, the MU threat level has risen to the point where I don't know how anyone could top it.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
fewer mind-bendingly colossal threats to the earth/universe/multiverse.
feel like this is just the status quo for superhero comics from the 00s onwards. nobody just robs banks or fights crime or whatever anymore
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 August 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
Hawkeyes does, to critical plaudits.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
fwiw the above is what I liked so much about Ms Marvel; the threats were definitely rooted in neighborhood sensibility, routed through Inhuman concerns
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 21 August 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
One of the downsides of the publishing side at Marvel is that they can go bigger and bigger and bigger with no increase in costs; they kind of forget to tell the human story. The MCU is kind of doing that neighborhood sensibility thing better, via the Netflix show(s), by virtue of sfx budget constraints.
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 21 August 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
Aaron's Thor is pretty good at doing both.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 22 August 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
Warren Ellis's take on Karnak is a hoot. Well, maybe not a hoot, but very appealing.
Soule's Inhumans is less hooty, but there's an interesting thing about it: Steve McNiven, the inker, is billed ahead of Jay Leisten, penciler. Don't think I've ever seen that before. I know McNiven has the bigger name, but still odd and noteworthy.
― Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
It kinda drives me nuts that Marvel has stopped indicating in their solicitations whether something is an actual series or just a miniseries. I don't think a single one of their post-Secret Wars books were listed as miniseries but I can't imagine, say, Karnak continuing beyond the six issues Ellis writes before he moves on to something else.
― I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
I can sort of see the side of wanting to leave that status ambiguous in case it's a surprise hit. Has Ellis said specifically that he's only writing 6 issues?
― Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
Isn't that Ellis's thing now? Limited runs, self-contained story arc, on to the next thing?
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I just assumed. What's his longest run on a recent-ish Marvel title? Like 12 issues or so on Astonishing X-Men and Thunderbolts?
― I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link