Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

quiet compared to when? a few months ago? this time last year? i imagine a lot less people are sitting in front of a computer refreshing ILX whenever they're bored in July than in February.

culture (politics) beyond music is much more interesting than music at the moment maybe?

maybe ILM needs Chris Ott to save it?
http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/where-have-all-the-music-messageboards-gone

Sorry to come over all Tuomas, but what is SNA?

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I realized that a millisecond after posting.

be the change

I don't use it either Tom I keep ile and ilm tabs open but I do think some may have set it to not show ILM.

Theres hardly any polls too so that cant be blamed by poll haters. There's far far less than there used to be.

the world has changed and we have all become metal men

I guess facebook could be one reason but then why is ILE as busy as ever? Do posters still think ILM is unfriendly or has music/music discussion become boring as ilxors got older?

balkanisation.

Cosmic Slop, why don't you listen to current ILM buzz-band Years & Years and post your thoughts in their dedicated thread? They're getting a lot of love!

we're giving ILM the silent treatment

and if you can't figure out WHY, then i'm certainly not going to explain it to you!

i think it's time for me to repost the unicorn song no one cared about last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBbmOHU2MoQ

maybe music piracy's downgraded the prestige of music in general thus dampening meta-discussion about music? maybe "music" is a greek word and greece itself is feeling unloved these days? maybe it's time to start collecting cars?

Cosmic Slop, according to your screencap, you've only clicked on ONE of those threads. So like, why aren't you participating in ILM?

I don't have much to say about anything released in the last five years or so, but if there's a thread for 'floating below the 40' Billboard singles from 1985, bump that shit.

or I have read them and they havent been updated, you choose

Whoops! I never look at the dots. Sorry.

music sucks, no more conversation needed

we're giving ILM the silent treatment

and if you can't figure out WHY, then i'm certainly not going to explain it to you!

IT KNOWS WHAT IT DID

did someone say something

tumbleweeds blow....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvUL_Xi_UqE

Sorry to come over all Tuomas, but what is SNA?

― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:01 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That is super easy to mis-read...

c on T

I never knew what SNA was! I was thinking it was another one of those shadow boards.

sooooo
ne1 notice how all of today's top singles are dance, urban, and/or teen bop?

is this because america is shit?

also I remember when everything sounded more white. even the hip-hop

after the last round of john v. paul, ilm's credit rating was downgraded and austerity is in force :(

also something about mexicans not having diverse music taste

I think my continued attempts to keep the Classical Music You Buy From Boomkat thread going are scaring people away. Sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTd54695IrM

^Went looking in vain for the Like button on that post

You couldnt hear our metallica party? :( - pplains cranked the volume way up hoping for noise complaints

i'm on a facebook music group during the day. i like it better than here now. a lot of my real world friends are on it and a lot of my ilx friends too. i mostly look at ilx out of habit.

now playing or another one?

yeah, now playing. that's my spot. i need my daily dose of andy zax. who doesn't?

ile is absolutely not as busy as ever, its nothing like as busy as ever

ilm was a bad idea and I'm.surprised it lasted this long

"see this music? it's shit"
"no its good"
"sound"

I started reading ILM when it was only ILM around here. You would have hated it.

d otm, there's no accounting for taste

Yeah, polling usually does the opposite of accounting for taste

maybe we need a new scapegoat, a la 1977 and prog rock?

only thing that might save ilm now is if ppl agree to stop talking about music

also, the music critic thing? not a job. ignore them.

There is definitely a lack of posting in the UK morning which suggests not many brits/euros are on ilm now.

I think the lex mentioned once he doesnt even bother with ilx til the americans are awake as its so dead

music critics used to make lots of big posts here.. Now it feels they save that for the dayjob. Which is a loss to ilm

dyou know what would be good

ile is absolutely not as busy as ever, its nothing like as busy as ever

I had thought this too (and the ad money is no longer anything like covering the hosting bill) so tonight I went over all the data I have. Compared to 2013-2014, in the past year we are down average 18% on page views, 27% on active users. People are spending exactly the same amount of time on the site when they do visit, though.

I think a couple of big Google changes have affected us:
- The change that downranked forums. This is the one that nearly killed Metafilter.
http://www.fastcompany.com/3030848/what-google-search-algorithm-changes-do-to-the-internet

- A more recent change to penalise sites that aren't mobile-friendly.

Can't do anything about the first one, don't really want to do anything about the second but may have to. I also don't think that's the whole story either.

interesting info, thks

feels a lot quieter than even that drop tho

stet is there any way to differentiate how many active users are on ile & ilm instead of the sitewide one?

individually counting the bearable ones

that's a good quote

I used to periodically post here over a decade ago, before I got into classical music, which is an itch ILM doesn't properly scratch. Now that I've reverted to a more omnivorous diet, this place has its charms. The metal threads in particular are incredibly helpful.

― pomenitul

i definitely am trying to work my way through "the canon" but it's difficult to talk about without sounding like a wanker. but i'm not "classical or nothing" like some folks get...

ile is absolutely not as busy as ever, its nothing like as busy as ever

ilm was a bad idea and I'm.surprised it lasted this long

"see this music? it's shit"
"no its good"
"sound"

― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:25 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ILM is an important safe space from people who don't like it.

I've been visiting since 2001 and quite frankly don't notice a difference but maybe I've been more sporadic in attention compared to some other veterans.

Don't get concerned with volume, just contribute to quality. It's especially important now in the modern era where there are attacks on institutions and sensibilities that provide the fuel for this art that we all love.

I get more of a kick out of talking about music on the ILXOR Now Playing Facebook page these days

ILM is an important safe space from people who don't like it.

Like darraghmac, you mean?

Though he insists on showing up periodically to tell ILM how terrible it Is, like a drunk at the side of the road shaking his fist at passing cars.

"It's especially important now in the modern era where there are attacks on institutions and sensibilities that provide the fuel for this art that we all love."

see various led zeppelin threads for the very worrying diminishment of music's greatest institution and the finely-tuned sensibilities of its four members who helped shaped the course of rock N roll, and indeed culture, for generations to come.

when ilm went pop it started resenting rockists' need to rationalize music tastes and as the new reigning queens make sure rock discourse is kept to a minimum

the 21 new answers on the Pink Floyd thread today are just gifs of wagging fingers

https://youtu.be/kVjDllE2OcE

etc

dont call it a comeback iirc

remember when rap and rock went hand in hand and were fighting the hegemony of pop

http://cdn.ambrosiaforheads.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/rundmc-aerosmith.png

the judgment night era

the 21 new answers on the Pink Floyd thread today are just gifs of wagging fingers

― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes)

bad puns, if you're wondering. the ultimate outcome of all music discussion when critical discourse becomes meaningless. i'm a little disappointed that y'all are bringing the floyd puns harder than my old school floyd homies, though.

ILM could use more folks who write about Train.

well, it's better than long discussions about hm, well, let's see, at what point did roger waters take over and pink floyd cease to become a "real band" i mean, yawn x1000

xpost

i think critical discourse becomes meaningless as soon as syd barrett left the band because that's the real pink floyd, dude

pink floyd rules

are these the faces of nu ilm

yeah i agree, if you're talking about pink floyd at all in 2017 it better be bad puns and discussions of shag-carpeted vans.

Caring about Pink Floyd quite the provocative stance so maybe ILM is doing just fine

jethro tull rules

"yeah i mean i liked RYM, but i just couldn't help but wonder if there was some hallowed land that'd let me talk about pink floyd AND def leppard"

I Love Jeffro Lloyd

i love bernard sumner

Fat Barnie

the best antidote for old ilx nostalgia is actual old ilx

Margaret Atwood should fucking die

I like how nü-ILX immediately locked it.

bravo to the locker of that thread, tho i date "nü-ILX" much earlier - circa the sandbox exile and addition of radio button polls maybe?

Nothing ever got locked or removed by request nor did anyone ever get banned on old ilx.

its funny to think that in 2001 we were referring to nu-ilx already though.

but maybe i should revise my timeline around precisely this shift. 2003 thread starts, title/premise is disparaged but conversation goes on. 2009 revive cast significant side-eye on title/premise, conversation goes on. 2010 semi-revive is a false start, 2012 revive goes nowhere, 2017 revive leads immediately to thread lock. so maybe somewhere in there was a real shift in board values/priorities, which i applaud, and perhaps this marks the arrival of 2nü-ILX.

I personally think of moving from Greenspun as the beginning of nu-ilx but others think of stet taking over and polls.

If you dont blame hstencil you are nu-ilx

all of you are like a little baby

we've come a long way (for a little) baby

Yeah, 2017 ILX needs to contritely distance itself from its 4chan-esque past because that thread title is perfectly representative of the types of discussions people were having back in the day. Decline successfully averted!

By the way, which one's Pink?

Yeah, 2017 ILX needs to contritely distance itself from its 4chan-esque past because that thread title is perfectly representative of the types of discussions people were having back in the day. Decline successfully averted!

― pomenitul, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:10 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's an extreme example but like honestly go to any really long thread and get super basic opinions about tom petty and shit if you go all the way to the beginning

best nostalgia for old ilx can be your own old ilx posts tbh

otoh a tiny bit after the beginning you do get mark s opinions

/Yeah, 2017 ILX needs to contritely distance itself from its 4chan-esque past because that thread title is perfectly representative of the types of discussions people were having back in the day. Decline successfully averted!

― pomenitul, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:10 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/

it's an extreme example but like honestly go to any really long thread and get super basic opinions about tom petty and shit if you go all the way to the beginning

or read posts on the Kendrick Lamar thread, from yesterday

i stand by my steve vai posts

xxp but just after that you get infuriating anonymous posts via a long time anonymous poster that annoys mark s :D

stop trying to make fetch happen

I was thinking of that annoying dude who you had to clean up categories when archiving

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not as much quiet as talking in circles, can't figure out if self parody or realizing true potential