iO9? rilly?
― got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
gawker.com is the only good one imo
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 July 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/video-the-resonant-frequency-of-googly-eyes-1715999628
― how's life, Monday, 6 July 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
Hamilton Nolan talks about organizing Gawker, digital media, and tech: https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-antifada/episode-41-there-is-power-in-a-union-w-hamilton-no/
(Sound quality is a bit rough)
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
Patrick George, the EIC of Jalopnik for the past who knows how many years, quit last week. If jalopnik goes south by sideways I seriously am gonna run out of things to read for fun that aren’t ILX (and I don’t even really care about cars).
― El Tomboto, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
I recommend filling the hole with Instagram accounts about picturesque cabins in the snow.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
Why can’t somebody just hire back all the former Gawker writers and launch it under a new name, like what Bill Simmons did going from Grantland to The Ringer?
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
The Ringer is backed by HBO, probably among others. Deadspin had a bunch of full-time staffers who were presumably making a decent salary with benefits. Somebody's gotta be able to pay for that in order to recreate this thing.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
wasn't Deadspin still fairly profitable? would think someone with $15-20m to spend could recreate the whole thing without much liability
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
well there aren't tons of ppl out there looking to drop $20 million on web publishing at the moment, believe it or not
also as i posted in another thread there was 15 years of investment poured into growing the deadspin brand by basically one staff, and the way that facebook/google etc operate, you can't really just shift one website's success and traffic to another merely by hiring the same people and creating a new domain
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
it's true that deadspin was profitable, it also matters that it was part of a larger apparatus of also successful websites, that had entire departments of capable sales, tech, video etc teams. i'd caution ppl against the idea that you can just create something like this out of thin air and have it make money immediately
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link
I guess that explains why it hasn't happened yet
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
The Ringer is probably also a warning to anyone wanting to do that with the Deadspinners - it's a lot smaller in influence than Grantland was and seems to function more as a vlog/podcast hub as a place where you go to read anyone's writing.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
Yes and/but/however Grandland wasn’t as *voicey* as deadspin. I think you *might* be able to make the transition to a new URL work if you were actually able to get the team back together again for one last ride. Yes I understand precedent does not suggest that it will work.
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
the Deadspin staff pitched $10-15 million as a ballpark for someone to pick them up and start from scratch, without profitability built in
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
Is Ringer really a warning? The YouTube content is what keeps the lights on. You don't want to read Rob Harvilla on Camila Cabello? I loved the Kate Knibbs story last week about Slava P's coke trafficking arrest. There's a good model there for a Deadspin-esque site to get eyeballs. Obviously Ringer doesn't perform like an ESPN site did but it's employing a lot of people.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
A warning about the diminished traffic and influence of trying to pack up an established property for another, yes. It's not about the content - though, yeah, I think most Ringer content is bad outside of the NBA... and inside the NBA if Simmons is directly involved - just that process.
People had been going to Deadspin for 15 years, it was the fill-in if they typed D in their browser - you can never recapture that with a new site. Especially after some time has passed.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
the ringer makes its money in podcasting. it's not a cautionary tale per se but i think that a writer's role at a place like that is still complicated and perhaps even precarious. the thing is that the ringer's relationship to podcasting is just really hard to replicate... the main reason their podcast network is so successful in the first place is bcuz simmons himself has been a popular podcaster for over a decade, going back to years before grantland even. there's websites/media companies that work, but they're all pretty sui generis. it's hard to just duplicate a model. one thing that made the death of deadspin particularly sad was not just that it was good, but that it killed off one of the sites whose success was not a model that could be copied.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
Maybe Deadspin should try that thing everyone loves where someone waves their hands around and reads/summarizes the article to you in a pop-up window
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
^ did not go to Deadspin in the two months before it died
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link