Next batch of Pixar films after the Monsters Inc. prequel

ponyo felt pitched at a younger audience than spirited away/howls (and obv than the dismbemberment-heavy mononoke) so it's where i'd expect kids who didn't grow up w totoro/kiki to discover ghibli

miyazaki was pretty clear that ponyo was designed for younger viewers than the average ghibli film

Also of course it's a little gross to judge a Japanese filmmaker's "crossover" on whether it does well in the US.

i thought that was the explicit context here though

I'm surprised nobody's started a studio ghibli thread - sure seems to be enough people interested in the subject.

there are like ten ghibli threads, no?

Oh well then you know where to go when you want to rank and debate their movies

ebert pushed totoro on fox video early in 1993, that's the generally acknowledged first american crossover
http://www.dramafever.com/news/roger-ebert-is-why-you-like-miyazaki/

didn't realize ponyo had a following at all; I wasn't thrilled with it, don't remember it getting very good reception either.

i loved Ponyo, but also surprised that so many here did see it - it didn't have a huge theatrical showing in the states IIRC

it seemed to get about as broad distribution as any ghibli film has gotten in the US

Favourite Miyazaki film

“Pixar has created a stable of films for children that is founded on narratives of self-actualization—of characters branching out, embracing freedom, hitting personal goals, and living their best lives. But this self-actualization is almost exclusively expressed in terms of labor, resulting in a filmography that consistently conflates individual flourishing with the embrace of unremitting work…. The natural and profitable ideological by-product of this fixation is an abhorrence of collectivism—and therefore organized labor.”

http://www.theawl.com/2015/07/the-pixar-theory-of-labor

Yeah but ... at least the robots are doing all the work in WALL-E.

ha, that article is nutso!

"Although he causes all this, and at no small cost to his daughter’s mental health, Riley’s dad is not depicted as a villain."

Well because he's not a villain... but he is presented as being pretty tone deaf and self-absorbed.

Ned is totally right at the top of this thread, I liked Inside Out fine but would have LOVED it if they'd released it as "THE UNTITLED PIXAR MOVIE THAT TAKES YOU INSIDE THE MIND."

Well because he's not a villain

I don't know if he's exactly a villain but I think the movie makes it pretty clear that the sequel to this is Riley grappling with mom and dad's divorce in <3 years, whether or not Pixar actually produces it

Hard to believe they'd leave that money on the table.

I dunno, plenty of their "prestige" titles don't get sequels, there's no "Further Up" or "Wall-F"

That article isn't crazy, but it isn't very good either.

No, the relationship between father and son in Finding Nemo does not resemble management how-to literature, because in management how-to literature there is no room for the emotional freak-outs that strongly mark close relationships. No management book anywhere tells anybody to drop everything and risk your life to find a lost employee.

No, you shouldn't expect American pop movies to make arguments for socialist collectivism, although that bit at the end of Nemo where all the fishes are urged to swim together in the same direction, overriding their own individual panic motions, just to avoid being captured - that seemed kind of commie to me, fella.

No, the abhorrence of Woody becoming part of a box set in Toy Story 2 is not a rejection of collectivism (LOL) but a rejection of collector-fetishism and the enshrinement of childhood playthings as high-priced collectibles, and at its best from the toy point of view, a rejection of safety in favor of the danger of love. Aw.

No, actually, Whole Foods, like most upscale food places, caught on to the whole "local" thing a while ago, and consumers who care can buy more local products if they want, not that that makes it all wonderful or anything.

What's really weird about this article is that the author avoids the obvious and objectionable Ayn Rand-y type business in certain Pixar movies (especially The Incredibles).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RgquKVTPE

i don't care for the animation style for the characters and have a long held antipathy for the anachronistic mix of humans and dinosaurs but THOSE BACKGROUNDS THO
http://www.comicscube.com/2011/06/comic-book-glossary-masking-effect.html

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

Yeah, the whitewater rapids is the most stunning bit of animation I saw in that trailer. Character design is positively goofy, though.

We're getting two full-blown Pixar releases in one year? That's kinda nice.
Foliage and rocks look amazing, and I'm fine with the character design.

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

the music hurts to listen to

let your friend know i'm looking forward to paying money to see A+ tufts of grass and dust physics

How come nobody brought up Porco Rosso in the Miyazaki debate?

Saw Inside\Out tonight. Loved it. Thought the opening short was sweet.

Liked the fact that since the story was in allegory land, they could go nuts with the designs. Appreciated the inclusion of hockey and the fact that family island had a part that deliberately looked like the "Life" board game.

The 3D gimmickry seemed real hammy, and we saw it in 2D.

have literally seen zero advertising for the one that's coming out in a couple weeks

they're doing bumps in football occasionally. i dunno, there's a definite muted tone to the pr

Wha, I had literally no idea the Good Dinosaur was out so soon. I had it figured as a summer 2016 release. Are they trying to bury it?

More like, they've spent so much time on it, delayed it, changed directors and changed the entire voice cast, that I think they just want to get it out of the way. Barring more delays, and following a fallow period, looks like they've got a movie each summer through 2019, each a sequel, plus one original movie slated for Nov. 2017. There's a Pixar backlog.

Not sure why but they skipped releasing any movies in 2014, so this might be a result of that

It definitely strikes me as odd when compared to the punishing amount of marketing for Inside Out.

I have seen nonstop ads for this pretty much every day for the past two weeks.

I have seen billboards advertising this on my occasional forays outside of my room.

There's a big moving one in Times Square, for example.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSf-5vbVpAU

The Good Dinosaur is not a good movie. It's a very obvious case of something that was in development entirely too long and at the hands of people who had wildly different ideas about what to do. The end result is a completely cliched and boring storyline ripped from Finding Nemo (and hundreds of other things). The setting and premise is bizarre: why are they farmers? why are they southern? It has three things that made paying to see this worth it: there is a scene with a stegasaurus that seems to be left over from some other, more fun version of the script; he has different animals on his horns and names each one and explains why they are there, and it is a rare moment of real humor; there is a scene with gophers getting blown out of their holes which was cute; and we finally get an actual, full fledged psychedelic trip brought on by dodgy berries, it lasts about 20 seconds but is the most bizarre and interesting things Pixar has done in a long time.

Technically of course they've totally surpassed themselves, water, light, grass, everything (other than the characters) is utterly completely photorealistic, it's beautiful.

The opening cartoon, Sanjay's Superteam, is 1000x better than the movie.

the voice acting team was awful across the board.

for pixar, this is a crazy low metascore
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-good-dinosaur

I asked my kids today if they wanted to see it, and they responded with a firm and resounding "no."

The opening cartoon, Sanjay's Superteam, is 1000x better than the movie.

I hadn't heard about this short. It does look pretty cool.

However, this is how I first heard about it - from Facebook:

My mom and I (& J___) just walked out of "The Good Dinosaur." It was too scary and kinda gross for J___'s age in our opinion and even if he wasn't there we wouldn't have liked it. Wish we would have seen the chipmunk movie or something instead. AND there was a horrible short film beforehand that we were subjected to...this dad is bowing and praying to Allah, then then there's all these scary gods...some three headed monster looking thing...then ultimately the little boy draws these gods as his superheroes. It was demonic honestly and had it been a Christian short film I bet people would complain...

Well thank heavens it wasn't Christian, otherwise, I'd have to listen to dimwitted people complain.

My kid and I really enjoyed the movie. I mean, if you've got a 5-year-old or something and they like dinosaurs, there's really no reason not to go. The opening cartoon (about a hindu, not muslim, father and son) was amazing as well.

there is a scene with a stegasaurus that seems to be left over from some other, more fun version of the script; he has different animals on his horns and names each one and explains why they are there, and it is a rare moment of real humor;

This was a styracosaurus.

Gotta watch out for any of those religions that worship three-headed deities, I mean....

http://i.imgur.com/TFKVtSR.jpg

Oh wait, nevermind.

Chaw's review couches this as an existentialist western. Fun read, at least.

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2015/12/the-good-dinosaur-the-revenant-the-hateful-eight.html