Next batch of Pixar films after the Monsters Inc. prequel

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that song is to hawaiian music what this song is to japanese music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUDqcnSuKWc

except, you know, less good

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link

I’ll never forget the first time I heard Israel Kamakawiwoole sing “Over the Rainbow.” It was on an episode of “ER” that I was watching with my wife. I immediately recognized this song from one of my favorite films, “The Wizard of Oz,” but when I heard Iz’s version, I was reminded of the love affair I have with Hawaii and it instantly reignited the powerful connection I feel for the love I shared with my wife there in 1989.

song is the rotten fruit of a mauna kea beach wedding

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 09:48 (eight years ago) link

iz's music is often beautiful, no idea why they didn't just license one of his tracks

also very disappointed none of you watched kittenbus

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

wait, was there actually a link to watch the video? i didn't see it

Nhex, Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

ahem

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

i've warmed to totoro in recent viewings but Eric is right, it's vastly overrated - infantile, cloying and a little bit boring/uneventful? the totoro themselves don't seem to have any impact on the main plotline.

Whereas Howls is very underrated.

And Kiki's is just so great. I prefer the sentiment a whole lot more than Totoro.

cod latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

totoro is about coming to terms with having a new sibling, fears of losing your mother, sitting on the cusp of childhood and losing the hallucinatory magic of young wonder
kiki is about transitioning into young womanhood, new responsibilities and puberty
i've always seen them as part of a continuum.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link

Howl is justly rated. I was going to say that Ponyo is underrated but honestly have no clue what the ILX hivemind thinks of it or how regular people rate it in the Ghibli canon.

:wq (Leee), Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link

a little bit boring/uneventful? the totoro themselves don't seem to have any impact on the main plotline.

as a kid i watched totoro over and over and over but i made up an alternate plot, more elaborate on each pass, where mei was a secret agent sent to assassinate her mother who was also a secret agent

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

anyway sorry still not over i heard that iz song on e.r. and i run an animation studio so i thought why not pay powerful homage to the time i fucked in a hotel

A free screening will be held this Friday, Nov. 7, at the IBM Building Courtyard in Ward Village.

i was in this building the other day looking at the gorgeous scale model of the highrise development that's replacing the old international marketplace and i'm glad they have something to play now in the attached lava-furnished cinema besides the endless loop of a 5-minute video where construction executives compete to see who can most frequently remind you "o'ahu" means "the gathering place"

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

some lovely stuff in ponyo, especially when the town floods: the tethered boats floating above the houses like balloons; the kids rowing through the canopy. great eerie kid-adventure stuff. only saw it once but remember being less into the magic liam neeson plot or the mechanics of ponyo's origin and peril. definitely lower-tier but when i saw it a little kid behind me stood up after the lights came up and announced "miyazaki never disappoints!" so it is hard for me to criticize.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link

infantile, cloying and a little bit boring/uneventful?

i love the quasi-stasis of much of "totoro"!

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

Ponyo was his first genuine crossover right? That's the one my cousin's kids watch on road trips. They know every line. And they are not an art house family.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

I always thought Totoro was the early crossover, at least in that I've seen the most Totoro figurines, art and stuff toted around by kids. Which is still not much, but the Totoro cat is the only bit of Ghibli iconography I come across with any frequency.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

a few of the ghibli films that didn't do big theatrical box office stateside ended up becoming big hits on video over the course of decades, so it's hard to say what was a "crossover"

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

ponyo felt pitched at a younger audience than spirited away/howls (and obv than the dismbemberment-heavy mononoke) so it's where i'd expect kids who didn't grow up w totoro/kiki to discover ghibli

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

miyazaki was pretty clear that ponyo was designed for younger viewers than the average ghibli film

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Also of course it's a little gross to judge a Japanese filmmaker's "crossover" on whether it does well in the US.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

i thought that was the explicit context here though

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

I'm surprised nobody's started a studio ghibli thread - sure seems to be enough people interested in the subject.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

there are like ten ghibli threads, no?

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

Oh well then you know where to go when you want to rank and debate their movies

da croupier, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

ebert pushed totoro on fox video early in 1993, that's the generally acknowledged first american crossover
http://www.dramafever.com/news/roger-ebert-is-why-you-like-miyazaki/

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

didn't realize ponyo had a following at all; I wasn't thrilled with it, don't remember it getting very good reception either.

akm, Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link

i loved Ponyo, but also surprised that so many here did see it - it didn't have a huge theatrical showing in the states IIRC

Nhex, Friday, 3 July 2015 00:41 (eight years ago) link

it seemed to get about as broad distribution as any ghibli film has gotten in the US

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 3 July 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

Favourite Miyazaki film

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 July 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

“Pixar has created a stable of films for children that is founded on narratives of self-actualization—of characters branching out, embracing freedom, hitting personal goals, and living their best lives. But this self-actualization is almost exclusively expressed in terms of labor, resulting in a filmography that consistently conflates individual flourishing with the embrace of unremitting work…. The natural and profitable ideological by-product of this fixation is an abhorrence of collectivism—and therefore organized labor.”

http://www.theawl.com/2015/07/the-pixar-theory-of-labor

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

Yeah but ... at least the robots are doing all the work in WALL-E.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link

ha, that article is nutso!

Nhex, Friday, 17 July 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

"Although he causes all this, and at no small cost to his daughter’s mental health, Riley’s dad is not depicted as a villain."

Well because he's not a villain... but he is presented as being pretty tone deaf and self-absorbed.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Ned is totally right at the top of this thread, I liked Inside Out fine but would have LOVED it if they'd released it as "THE UNTITLED PIXAR MOVIE THAT TAKES YOU INSIDE THE MIND."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

Well because he's not a villain

I don't know if he's exactly a villain but I think the movie makes it pretty clear that the sequel to this is Riley grappling with mom and dad's divorce in <3 years, whether or not Pixar actually produces it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

Hard to believe they'd leave that money on the table.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 July 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, plenty of their "prestige" titles don't get sequels, there's no "Further Up" or "Wall-F"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 July 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link

That article isn't crazy, but it isn't very good either.

No, the relationship between father and son in Finding Nemo does not resemble management how-to literature, because in management how-to literature there is no room for the emotional freak-outs that strongly mark close relationships. No management book anywhere tells anybody to drop everything and risk your life to find a lost employee.

No, you shouldn't expect American pop movies to make arguments for socialist collectivism, although that bit at the end of Nemo where all the fishes are urged to swim together in the same direction, overriding their own individual panic motions, just to avoid being captured - that seemed kind of commie to me, fella.

No, the abhorrence of Woody becoming part of a box set in Toy Story 2 is not a rejection of collectivism (LOL) but a rejection of collector-fetishism and the enshrinement of childhood playthings as high-priced collectibles, and at its best from the toy point of view, a rejection of safety in favor of the danger of love. Aw.

No, actually, Whole Foods, like most upscale food places, caught on to the whole "local" thing a while ago, and consumers who care can buy more local products if they want, not that that makes it all wonderful or anything.

What's really weird about this article is that the author avoids the obvious and objectionable Ayn Rand-y type business in certain Pixar movies (especially The Incredibles).

Vic Perry, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RgquKVTPE

Number None, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

i don't care for the animation style for the characters and have a long held antipathy for the anachronistic mix of humans and dinosaurs but THOSE BACKGROUNDS THO
http://www.comicscube.com/2011/06/comic-book-glossary-masking-effect.html

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the whitewater rapids is the most stunning bit of animation I saw in that trailer. Character design is positively goofy, though.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

We're getting two full-blown Pixar releases in one year? That's kinda nice.
Foliage and rocks look amazing, and I'm fine with the character design.

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 05:01 (eight years ago) link

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

I have a friend whose day this comment will make

kinder, Saturday, 25 July 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

the music hurts to listen to

The Once-ler, Saturday, 25 July 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

let your friend know i'm looking forward to paying money to see A+ tufts of grass and dust physics

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 July 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

How come nobody brought up Porco Rosso in the Miyazaki debate?

the man who posts like Sam Smith sings (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 26 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Saw Inside\Out tonight. Loved it. Thought the opening short was sweet.

Liked the fact that since the story was in allegory land, they could go nuts with the designs. Appreciated the inclusion of hockey and the fact that family island had a part that deliberately looked like the "Life" board game.

The 3D gimmickry seemed real hammy, and we saw it in 2D.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Sunday, 25 October 2015 08:11 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

have literally seen zero advertising for the one that's coming out in a couple weeks

qualx, Sunday, 8 November 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

they're doing bumps in football occasionally. i dunno, there's a definite muted tone to the pr

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 November 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Wha, I had literally no idea the Good Dinosaur was out so soon. I had it figured as a summer 2016 release. Are they trying to bury it?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 November 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

More like, they've spent so much time on it, delayed it, changed directors and changed the entire voice cast, that I think they just want to get it out of the way. Barring more delays, and following a fallow period, looks like they've got a movie each summer through 2019, each a sequel, plus one original movie slated for Nov. 2017. There's a Pixar backlog.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link


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