a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

kinda wierd Palin *isn't* running. I mean at this point, why not?

Her leaving an elected office midterm to do fuck all probably hurt her chances even within the crazy base.

well she had already accomplished all of her goals in office

ie, she had put everything in the office in plastic bags and moved it to her house

I think Charles Pierce had that one right - running a full campaign rather than being parachuted in at the last minute would be too much like work.

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I do find Obama/Hillary crowing about this to be p disingenuous given their records

True. However, I suspect they were on board with the concept for a while before they were publicly on board with the concept, because they are politicians.

"However" sort of implies that that's a mitigating factor, but it surely ain't.

whither "leadership"

yeah i mean lincoln pretended he didnt want to end slavery for a long time and no one believed him not sure if ppl r still mad at him abt that

hmm how well did that strategy work out for Lincoln and the country can you remind me

slavery ended

i dunno, i figure obama was playing a long game and history will recognize that, as it largely has with lincoln

(not that obama can claim the same sort of credit, and not to claim that the liberations in question are equally momentous)

In an appearance on Sean Hannity's radio show on Friday, Cruz, who is running for president, made it clear he thought the rulings represented a sad moment for America.

"Today is some of the darkest 24 hours in our nation's history," Cruz said after Hannity asked how he was doing

poor guy

I wonder what the other dark hours were

That day his 5th grade teacher gave him a D on a grammar assignment.

heh

"today is some of" is such a horrible trainwreck

that construction makes me think of "i can has..."

I can has presidency?

hmm how well did that strategy work out for Lincoln and the country can you remind me

― Οὖτις,

are you really questioning this as strategy? Border state revolt, likely northern Democratic revolt -- not sure what he could've done, especially as he kept a coalition together that was FAR more radical than he between 1865-1868.

Not entirely serious but civil war + dead president is kinda a weird example of an optimal outcome

Also disingenuous to suggest o and hillary had as much on the line w gay marriage as lincoln did w slavery, and neither had the foresight or instincts that lincoln did.

~results~

(sorry morbs)

Not entirely serious but civil war + dead president is kinda a weird example of an optimal outcome

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we are standing at the precipice of a truly moronic alternate history i can feel it

What if.. Robert Bork had been president in 1861?

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lol

What if.. Robert Bork had been president in 1861?

― here i am in the land of large breakfasts (Doctor Casino),

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/176729/judge-bork-martinis-kathryn-jean-lopez

Right now, George Pataki is thinking 'Look at these schmoes - maybe I should run.'

'Look at these schmoes - maybe I should run. hey, I'M A SCHMOE TOO!'

god, i hope trump can keep this up for a few more weeks. having him in the GOP debates would be amazing

http://deadline.com/2015/06/nbc-donald-trump-cancels-miss-usa-miss-universe-1201461913/

The reporting is a little bit ambiguously worded, because while it's clear that they've dropped the pageants, it also states that it's keeping its relationship with the Mark Burnett company which produces Celebrity Apprentice.

yeah was wondering how this was going to work out:

The network said that it has already begun exploring ways to air future seasons of the reality series "Celebrity Apprentice" without Trump as host. Reality show producer Mark Burnett continues to work on that show. "The Apprentice," which Trump also hosted and does not feature celebrities, is on hiatus.

Aww man... just looking at that 2012 chart up aways... Jon Huntsman was the only likeable guy running in the GOP, of course he was universally hated. Funny cause if had switched to the Dems the DLC probably would have funded him all the way to Veep, you know there's a large Dem. constituency that wets itself at the idea of slightly more liberal Jack Kemp.

interesting

I wouldn't have expected the donor base to tilt so far - p much ensures she'll continue her lefty populist schtick

hey i need to go on the record somewhere as saying i think chris christie will win the nomination
i just need to say it. i need to be on the record, laughed out of town, humiliated, i need to elicit eventually-historically-ironic responses, like all the conversation in the first twenty minutes of titanic. i still just feel like people love a strident muscular guy, & that any variation from such in a democratic nominee will mean they can double down on it.

Muscular?

i agree that people gravitate toward really large brash confident loud people, but he really shot himself in the foot with the scandals before he even started.

The sphincter is a muscle.

people gravitate toward really large brash confident loud people

Really? I sure don't.

yeah me neither

but lots of people do

nobody has to debate the merits of this, really i would prefer it to be swept aside, for me to be cast out, left derelict & ruined but desperately clutching this post's bookmarkedmessageid so that one day i might wield it as proof. & muscular like muscular, not like "muscular", you know. i don't think anything matters anymore in terms of scandals, or like it does but just in this thin rhetorical sense of creating a dicey linguistic puzzle, solving which would demonstrate one's eligibility, proving one's power as a table-turner. like with jeb & iraq or whatever. nobody cares about iraq at all, but the fascination of how well he can walk the tightrope of not specifically bowing to its gravity is like a useful contest. christie just needs a bunch of material to adult-in-the-room over, i think, of which there is a bunch, & then he can be reassuring commanding dad president.

it would be really fun to walk on chris christie's back

We are in many respects an intensely superficial country and Chris Christie is an ugly, sweaty, loud-talking (and probably close-talking) fat man. He will never be president.

*prints this post*

Gaze intently at every face at the top of this thread (and add Jindal and Christie.) Can you picture ANY of them being president? I mean, GWB was an unlikely president (to me), but these guys and gal are a pretty amazing bunch...

Gaze intently at every face at the top of this thread (and add Jindal and Christie.) Can you picture ANY of them being president?

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